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Thomas Delaney and Mary (Arnot) or (Cummins)

My GG Grandfather, Thomas Delaney and his wife Mary (whose bith name was Arnot according to hier son'e marriage certificate or Cummings according to her son's death certificate) were from Laois.  They had several children in Ireland, John, 1843, Patrick 1845, Mary 1846, Michael 1851,  Their next child was born in Corning New York so they must have emigrated 1852-1854.  Any information on their mariage, births, baptisms, or emigration greeatly appreciated.  I will be in Ireland in Spetember woudl like to have information by then. Thank you so much.

Shawn

Friday 14th June 2019, 11:36PM

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  • Hi Shawn,

    Do you know what town or parish they came from?

    The marriage of Thomas and Mary was before the introduction of civil registration so the only way to find records is to look in the parish records, but you would need to have some idea of where that is. The same applies for the baptisms of the children. 

    Miriam

    Saturday 15th June 2019, 04:54PM
  • No, that is what I am trying to find out.  Mary's 1880 census entry says she is from Queen's County and that is all I have to go on.

    Shawn

    Saturday 15th June 2019, 10:24PM
  • Hi Shawn,

    It is an almost impossible task to find any information based just on a county, when there are little records available.

    I checked John Grenham's surnames from Griffiths (1847-1864) and found that there were no Arnot households in the whole of Ireland.

    There were 25 households of Arnott but none anywhere near Co Laois. Looking for a parish which had Delaney and Arnott together gave 2 results, one in Belfast and one in Cork, which are both some distance from Laois. 

    Changing the search to Cummings shows no households in Co. Laois either. And there were no parishes in the country that had Delaney and Cummings in proximity to each other.

    I could not tie down a birth record for the children you named, does this information come from the census record you found? You should bear in mind that ages were quite fluid at that time and it was often a guess as to when somebody was born, so age can fluctuate from census to census. Again, without knowing where they came from it is going to be incredibly difficult to find anything.

    If you could obtain a death record for Mary it might include some more information such as her parents names. 

    This site might be of interest to you.

    http://laoisheritagesociety.org/

    And here is some information about Genealogy research in Co. Laois.

    https://laois.ie/departments/libraries/services/local-research/geneaology/

    Good luck with your search, I hope you have a great trip to Ireland in September.

    Miriam

    Sunday 16th June 2019, 02:16PM
  • Dear Shawn:

     

    I would concur with Miriam that if you get a copy of Mary's death certificate, it might give you more information.  I too have had a look on the Roots Ireland database which lists many parish registers (but not all).  The only possible famlily that I see with a John (1843), Mary (1845) and Michael (1851) is a family in Clough parish in County Kilkenny.  This parish is on the county border with Laois (Queen's County).  There isn't any Patrick noted for this family.  The names of the parents are Thomas Delaney and Mary Brenan  ---which is definitely not close to Arnot or Cummings.  You would really need to get a death certificate for Mary to see if parents' names are given.

    Please contact me directly at:  jhalloranryan@irelandxo.com about your trip details as we can arrange to have a volunteer meet you to assist if you wish.

    Kind regards,

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 17th June 2019, 08:40AM