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i have just discovered naturalization papers for my great great grandfather, Thomas Flood. He has his birthdate as July 11, 1832 in County Dublin Ireland. He arrived in New York on October 27, 1853 and then moved to Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA. This conflicts with prior information we had for him.

His parents were John and Ellen Flood and he had a sister, Bridget Flood who also lived in Gloucester. 

Any information would be greatly appreciated. 

Msdonna

Saturday 10th Dec 2016, 12:02PM

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  • I'm not seeing any likely matches for your Flood family in Dublin City or County, bear in mind that not all parishes have records back to the 1830s, and not all that are available are currently online - do you have any additional details from US sources that might help the search, e.g. Ellen's surname, and denomination for this Flood family ?

    The closest match is a Thomas Flood baptised 1835 in St. Andrew's RC parish Dublin City to parents John and Ellen (No maiden surname specified), but no sign of a sister named Bridget. There could be a number of different couples named John and Ellen Flood, so having her maiden surname or a more detailed location, e.g. town or parish, could help narrow your search, and confirm or rule out any potential matches found..

    p.s. there's a tree on Ancestry which suggests that this family came from Co. Westmeath, might be worth checking this to see if this person has any documentation to support this theory.

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 11th Dec 2016, 10:52AM
  • donna 

    We have several different places on different documents for Thomas Flood.  My aunt who is in her 80s and recently passed said that she had always heard he was from county Meath.  On this website a woman found a baptism of a Thomas flood who would have been a few months old if it was him the parents names were Thomas flood and Ellen Muldoon .   I put that on my family tree but now found detailed naturalization records where he said he was born in County Dublin .  

    They were RC and he married Mary Fitzgerald from Cork in Gloucester, Massachusetts.  They had two children survive to adulthood. my great grandmother Hanora "Hannah" Flood m William Baker and Mary Ellen Flood m Keating. The sons were John, Thomas, James, Benjamin, Bernett in order of birth. 

    He may have had other siblings but I'm only sure of Bridgett who passed early. On her death certificate it lists John and Ellen as her parents, no maiden name.  

    The family tree on ancestry is probably my first cousin, Pamela Cooney.  

    I'm trying to see which birthplace is correct.  Thank you very much, Donna Barnes Lopes

     

     

    Msdonna

    Monday 12th Dec 2016, 12:56PM
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    Re: Thomas Flood

    On one document in vital statistics it also says he was from West May or mayo.  Is there a parish or township with that name in any of these places.  Could he have been speaking with a thick accent or pronouncing it in Gaelic? 

     

     

    Msdonna

    Monday 12th Dec 2016, 01:25PM
  • Unfortunately that doesn't narrow down the search - there's an entire county named Mayo, but it's in the west of Ireland and not close to either County Dublin or County Westmeath. There are about four townlands named Mayo scattered around Ireland and also a civil and Catholic parish of that name (confusingly it's in Co. Mayo).

    People that emigrated tended to give their county or town of origin if not country, and would often give the name of a major town close to the area they came from, rather than the name of a small townland..

    Do you have Ellen's maiden surname on any documents - e.g. marriage/death certs, obituary etc. ?

    Since the location of origin is uncertain her surname that could be a very useful clue to help determine which, if any, are possible matches to your Flood family in Irish records.. In the 1830s and early 1840s there were about 30 Catholic Parishes in County Dublin including those in the city (new parishes where established later) and there are a number of parishes which do not have records back as far as the 1830s, e.g. Garristown 1857, and also a small number not available on line at the moment.

    One factor to bear in mind is that Dublin was and still is a port, and many people emigrating left via one of the Dublin ports, e.g. Dublin City, or Dun Laoghaire/Kingstown on the way to major Trans-Atlantic ports such as Liverpool, so it might be possible that Thomas stayed for a time in Dublin before he left Ireland, but had connections going back to another areas in Ireland.

    p.s. do you have an any additional details on Bridget ? e.g. estimated year of birth - did she arrive in the US at the same time as Thomas ?

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 13th Dec 2016, 08:50AM

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