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Thomas & Mary Burke

I am researching my family from Galway, My Grt Grandfather Patrick Burke Married Cecilia Tierney in 1899 at Ballinasloe Church and then left to live in Manchester. On the Roman Catholic church marriage document I have for them, Patrick`s parents are recorded as Thomas and Mary Burke, address Clontuskert, ocupation of both Fathers were Farmers,  The Manchester 1901 Census has both of my Grt Grandparents listed as coming from Gorteenaveela. I have had success in finding the Tierney side , My Grt Grandmothers parents were John Tierney & Catherine Fahy, but I have found nothing for the Burke side. Patrick is listed on the Census as age 36 which would put his birth about 1875.

The East Galway family History did a search for me in 2011 and came up with several possible births for a Patrick with the parents Thomas and Mary Kelly, Mary Regan, Mary Broderick, Mary Ryan, & Mary Mulcahy all births ranging from 1872-1878 but none of them recorded in the Clontuskert church records.

I cannot find the Death of Patrick Burke so cannot establish his true age or date of birth, does any of this information ring any bells with anyone? 

Diane

 

DiseyWisey

Monday 17th February 2020, 11:33AM

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  • Diane:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    Can you share a copy of the 1899 marriage record? 

    If Patrick was 36 in 1901 then he would have been born around 1865 rather than 1875.

    I located a civil birth record and related baptismal record for a Patrick Burke with father Thomas Burke and mother Mary Kelly in 1866 which would match the age 36 in 1901. However, where the family lived was much further south in Co. Galway down by Loughrea. Possibly they moved north later. Please review the two records below and see if you think they are for your Patrick. Did he have siblings?

    Roger McDonnell

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03537/2302126.pdf

    Name:Patrick BurkeDate of Birth:28-Feb-1866
    Date of Baptism:29-Feb-1866Address:Not RecordedParish/District:KILLEENADEEMAGender:
    CountyCo. Galway
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Burke ThomasMother:Kelly MaryOccupation:Not Recorded
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Callagy MichaelSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Callagy Bridget

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Monday 17th February 2020, 06:23PM
  • Hi Roger,

     

    Thanks so much for your reply, please see attached the 1901 Census, also the 1911 and the Marriage Certificate and Civil Record, the Church Document is at work so I cannot include it until tomorrow, but it only includes Patricks Mothers name as Mary, no surname.

    I have no idea whether he had brothers or sisters , all I know is that my Grandmother said he came from a large family, his Wife Cecilia had around 9 brothers and sisters and when they moved to Manchester they went to live with one of her sisters before moving in next door to them, they are down as Mary & Michael Birmingham on the 1901 census living at number 20.

    On the 1911 Census they have put down that they are both from Gorteenaveela and age 36, and age 24 on the 1901 census.

    I really have drawn a blank with trying to gather information for him but appreciate any help you can give me.

     

    Diane

    DiseyWisey

    Tuesday 18th February 2020, 04:19PM

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  • Diane:

    I have gone back and forth searching for the elusive Patrick Burke son of Thomas Burke and Mary Kelly. I ruled out the1866 Killeendeema record shown in my prior message because when I looked for siblings, there was another Patrick Burke born to that couple around 1876 which would indicate that the 1866 Patrick died young. I looked at the 1901 census for the area around Clontuskert and there was only one Burke family. The head of household was a 64 year old Patrick Burke and he had one son, Patrick Burke age 31 and unmarried. I ruled out this family. I then broadened the search and looked at Co. Roscommon records since Clontuskert parish borders Roscommon. I found a Patrick Burke born in 1862 in the Ballybay parish to parents Thomas Burke and Mary Kelly and he had many younger siblings but unfortunately there was also a Patrick born in 1883 again indicating that the 1862 Patrick had died.

    So at this point, I'm stuck also. Let me know if any new info turns up.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Thursday 20th February 2020, 07:04PM
  • Hi Roger,

    It is so frustrating, I have been searching for nearly 15 years with no luck, It grates me that he was supposed to be from such a large family and i am on every Ancestry site going and more,  that no one else seems to be looking for my side of the Burkes.

    I have found 4 children for them but they all seem to be named after the parents and the Grt Grandmothers side of the family, unless Patrick Burkes siblings were coincidentally called the same names?

    I also checked the 1901 Census and found there was only one Burke family in Clontuskert, how is that?  unless the Patrick Burke on the Census is a relative. I am waiting on yet another death certificate and if anything proves fruitfull i will contact you.

     

    Many thanks for your help Roger, it is much appreciated.  At least my Tierney side is doing better, I have also now got Wilsons in Roscommon to find and Byrnes in Wicklow, ARGGHHH

     

    Di

     

    DiseyWisey

    Saturday 22nd February 2020, 01:06PM
  • Di:

    Can you send me an e-mail at castlemore@irelandxo.com and I will give you another suggestion.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Saturday 22nd February 2020, 06:42PM