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Hello,

I have a Thomas Wallace b.1823 (to John and Catherine), from Ballyadams who married Margaret Dempsey b.1820.

They had at least three children born in Ardenteagle, Killeshin, Co Carlow.

After they moved to Scotland, appearing in the 1851 census. Margaret Dempsey is not there; I can't see any death for her in Ireland or Scotland.

There is a possible listing for Thomas's father John in the Tithe Appointment Search.

Is there anywhere that would hold the Estate records that may give an insight into rents, evicions etc..?

I also wondered why they went to Scotland and not the easier route to England. As they were miners in Scotland would there have been a mine around Kileeshin?

Thanks,

John.

Mootz

Tuesday 6th February 2018, 05:01PM

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  • Hi John,

    A few more children from www.rootsireland.ie/:

    Name:Catherine WalaceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:04-May-1838Address:ArdentagleParish/District:GRAIGUECULLEN/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WalaceMother:Margaret DempsyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Denis Ryan Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Ellen Walace 
    Notes:

    [S][E][CHILDS NAME CATHRIN, FATHERS NAME THOS, MOTHERS NAME MARGT]

    Name:John WallaceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:18-Sep-1840Address:Not RecordedParish/District:GRAIGUECULLEN/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WallaceMother:Margaret DempseyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James Motley Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Bridget Dempsey 
    Notes:

    [E] [FATHERS NAME THOS, MOTHERS NAME MARGT]

    Name:Bridget WallaceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:02-May-1844Address:IlParish/District:GRAIGUECULLEN/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WallaceMother:Margaret DempseyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Michael Hennessey Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Not Recorded Il 

    Notes:

    [E][CHILDS NAME BRIDGT, FATHERS NAME THOS, MOTHERS NAME MARGT,
    ADDRESS COULD BE ARDEGAL, SP 2 SURNAME COULD BE BREADGE]

    Name:Elizabeth WallaceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Feb-1847Address:ArdentegleParish/District:GRAIG/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WallaceMother:Margaret DempsyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James Quin Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Margaret Hickey 
    Notes:

    [E] [FATHERS NAME GIVEN AS THOS. MOTHERS NAME GIVEN AS MARGT]

    Name:Elizabeth WallaceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Feb-1847Address:ArdentegleParish/District:GRAIG/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WallaceMother:Margaret DempsyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James Quin Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Margaret Hickey 

    Notes:

    [E] [FATHERS NAME GIVEN AS THOS. MOTHERS NAME GIVEN AS MARGT]

    Name:Patrick WalliceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:16-Mar-1849Address:ArdentegleParish/District:GRAIGUECULLEN/KILLESHINGender:
    CountyCo. Carlow
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas WallaceMother:Margaret DempseyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Michael Kavanagh Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Judith Quinn 
    Notes:

    [E] [CHILDS NAME GIVEN AS PAT, FATHERS NAME GIVEN AS THOS, MOTHERS
    NAME GIVEN AS MARGT,CHILDS AND FATHERS NAME SURNAME SPELT
    DIFFERENTLY]

    There are no death records from Carlow on roots; no luck with the Nat Library R C registers either.

    Hopefully a Carlow expert will answer your questions about estate records.

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 7th February 2018, 06:51AM
  • May be of interest re your query on mining in the area - from the entry for Killeshin civil parish in Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of 1837 : "..Sandstone and limestone are found here, and extensive collieries are worked by H. Fitzmaurice, Esq. There were formerly smelting-furnaces, which were discontinued for want of fuel...".

    shanew147, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 7th February 2018, 09:21AM
  • Thanks for looking into that for me! the info is very welcome.

    Mootz

    Thursday 8th February 2018, 07:17PM