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I am searching for confirmation that my ancestors originated from Cavan, specifically Knockbride. Through DNA matching, I have confirmed that I am a match to a James Rice (actually to one of his descendants) that was born in 1810/1811 in Cavan, married Elizabeth Murphy (from new York), had a number of children two of whom were John (born 1848/49 and Agnes born circa 1840. The family moved to Canada in 1850 and has remained there. I have several Canadian documents that demonstrate that my DNA match is a direct descendant of James, John, and Agnes and those documents indicate that all were born in Cavan. I also have an ancestor named James Rice, born between 1818 and 1828 (most likely closer to 1828). He immigrated to the US in the 1840's and settled in Waterford, Connecticut, where all of us Rice's (his descendants) have lived ever since.I can not determine where in Ireland he came from and to what line of Rice's he belongs. There was some beliedf it was Down but I have no data to support that. His death certificate says his father was a Barney Rice (Bernard/Barnett, etc). My research discovered that there was a Barnett Rice that lived in Cavan and who had a son James born in 1828. A Bernard Rice (perhaps Barnett and Bernard are the same person) lived in Cavan from 1792 to his death in 1877. This information is consistant with this being my ancestor but I would like to confirm it somehow. The fact that my DNA match also comes from Cavan lends more support to that. As such, I would like to find out if there is a connection between that Barnett Rice  and the James Rice of 1811. What is Barnett/Bernard's father's name and is it my ancestral line. Any help in making this determination would be super.

klrice10

Thursday 13th Jul 2017, 08:57PM

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  • klrice10:

    Welcome to ireland Reaching Out!

    What was the religious denomination for the Rice family that went to Canada? Roots Ireland did not have any baptismal records for the children of James and Elizabeth. I did locate a baptismal record for the 1828 James Rice and his family was Church of Ireland. See transcription below.

    The 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Cavan did not have a Barnett Rice but there was a Bernard Rice in Camptown townland in Kildrumsherdan civil parish which is close to Knockbride.

    Roger McDonnell

    Name:James RiceDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:01-Jun-1828Address:DrumhillaParish/District:KNOCKBRIDEGender:MaleCountyCo. Cavan
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:Barnett RiceMother:Mary RiceOccupation:Farmer

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 17th Jul 2017, 03:54PM
  • Almost all of the documents that refer to the Rice family that went to Canada say that they were Presbyterian but I believe that there was one or two that mention Church of Ireland. I a wondering if Bernard and Barnett are the same person. My ancestor's (James Rice) death record in the US says that his father's name was Barnay or Barney which I guess could be either Barnett or Bernard.

    klrice10

    Monday 17th Jul 2017, 09:20PM
  • Bernard and Bryan are very interchangeable and Barney is also a variant. Barnett is close to Barney so I would agree that there is a likelihood that Barnett and Bernard could be the same person.

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 18th Jul 2017, 07:27PM

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