Looking for Patrick McCabe

Hi

Cavan Genealogy,
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There are still Felix & Patrick McCabe's in Co Cavan, DNA would give you links if they were willing to test, meanwhile try the first tips & let me know how you get on & hopefully, I may show you around in Co Cavan some day.

Regards Carmel O'Callaghan

Thanks Carmel but most of these won't work as Patrick was gone from Ireland by 1847. Without his parents names I cannot find anything in the Tithe Applotment books which is the only thing that covers the time he was there.

The BMD's that are on line have identified one possible hit in Cavan yet again, without his parents names, we can confirm nothing.

My other best bet would be to find his Uncle Felix (Feelex)  and from there determine which of Felix's brothers was his father.  Alas, with Felix the issue is the same, no knowledge of his parents names and he left Ireland  before the time period of records that are available.

Not sure about the DNA testing. It would tell me if I am related to the McCabes in Cavan, which I firmly believe is so, but not give me the names of the parents.

I have similar problems with my other Irish ancestors, Quinns, Cullivans and O'Connells. Have birth dates, their names, when they immigrated to Canada but no parents info or region they came from in Ireland. All are from the same time period, early 1800s.  Looking at BMDs for all Ireland does not find them anywhere. 

Appreciate the thought and some day we hope to visit Ireland. My Irish brother-in-law tells me that Ireland is much like Cape Breton where we live (voted the #1 best island to visit in North America).

Thom

Just so you're aware, after Family Tree DNA did a recent seminar in the UK, they dropped the price of their 12 marker test from $99 to $39, for a short time.

I think the $39 sale on the 12 marker Y DNA  test, ends Tuesday, March 5, 2013.

I have several Hopkins males stepping forward to test. 3 in California, one in Canada. 2 have definate Irish ties. One has Welsh origins. The last one doesn't have a clue as he was adopted.

I'm working to try and help unravel Irish history through DNA research, and link familes. 

Thanks Thom,

I can understand your frustration & yet because your family emigrated, you can go back further than the most of us that never left.  Anyway, I wonder was Felix younger, did he get married here? if so you may be able to get the marriage cert & Cavan Genealogy may be able to help there. If he got married here the chances are that he married his next door neighbour as they did not travel far for spouses.  

Names also repeated themselves in families, if Patick & Felix were from the previous generation it is chances that their cousins were name likewise, so to find clusters of them, may get us the townland, together with Smith neighbours 1901 & 1911 census at nationalarchives.ie 

In my ideal world every one would have their family tree done, last year I amalgamated 3 O'reilly trees through their in-laws, so in-laws are very important, as is gossip, I have discounted some of the stories, only to prove that they belonged to the previous generations, so hold on to all the jig saw pieces, that missing piece may turn up.

I know the McCabes are very active with their clan gathering in Cavan, I could not locate it online, but if you can write to the Editor at The Anglo Celt, they often publish letters looking for family & you will get a larger audience than this site gets at the moment.  www.anglocelt.ie

Were there any priests in the family, they are will documented. All Graveyards are not recorded yet & there are some very old ones, this is a big job.

I also trawl www.irishnewsarchive.com ( subscription site) It is very addictive & very sad reading in some cases, however I have seen mention of people getting passages paid to go to america, also if the family had any means there maybe obituaries, which would mention family & where they were, perhaps your families death was mentioned, even in societies, political & sporting as they seemed to always be passing on sympathy at their meetings which were recorded in the anglo celt.

I'm gone all green!!! Dont give up Regards Carmel 

Carmel, Felix was a generation older than Patrick. He was the brother to Patrick's father (name unknown).  What we have been told about Felix is that he was born in Dawson Grove Co Monaghan about 1778/79and registered under the PLU in Cootehill.

Felix married Mary/Margaret Smyth/Smith in Ireland date unknown but before 1829.

They had three sons: Edward born about 1810, Henry born about 1812 and Patrick born about 1814.

All came to Canada in 1829 so any census of Ireland after that would do no good.  We have found all we can in Canada on they along with his nephew, my GGGrandfather Patrick.

We have been told Patrick was born in Co Cavan....now that is rumour but it is a starting point and that is why I am here now.

Some of our relatives were in the Cootehill and Dawson Grove area last summer to try to find relatives with no success. There were lots of McCabes but no one could connect with the names we have.

Thom