My Brownlee Irish Heritage

Do you know the name of your paternal grandparents ?

There may be a possible match for Richard on 1930 US census in Ross, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, born c1924 - could this fit ?

His parents are David and Emily and also listed in the household are children David, Jean, William and Ruth all born Pennsylvania. David snr. seem to have died by 1940 as Emily is head of household and a widow.

On the 1930 census David snr lists his place of birth as Pennsylvania and both parents as born Scotland.

Hi Barry,

My great grandmother Mabel Tichenor was married to a James K Brownlee from Glasgo, Lankashire, Scotland and died in Ireland in 1964 I believe. I have seen James Brownlee on a census from the U.K. With siblings. I know that he was back and forth between NJ and Europe often. Are you on Ancestry.com? There is a lot of info about the Brownlees on there, but I no longer have a membership.

I hope this helps,

Shannon

Greetings,

Thank you for the quick responses. David and Emily Brownlee are my grandparents. Is there a way to track the Brownlee name prior to David? His parents were born in Scotland. I am not on Ancestry.com. I am not sure about the name James K Brownlee; however, I think there may be a connection somewhat on the Brownlee Tree.

Thank you and blessings,

Barry

You would need to track back the US line and confirm as many details as possible on each generation before making the switch to Scottish records - e.g. census returns, birth marriage and death certs, obit, headstones etc. ScotlandsPeople pay-website is good coverage of Scottish records including images of the census returns, civil records, and parish records, but I would wait until you have established a little more information first, otherwise you could use up quite a few credits chasing incorrect lines ..

I had a quick search of US records and found a possible lead...using Ancestry and FindMyPast (Ancestry seem to be having some problems at the moment - some searches were giving inconsistent results) these need to be followed up further to verify the details fit with your Brownlee family...

Starting Richard's father David - he seems to have served in the Military during WW1 as there are various reference to him in these, some of which confirm the connection with wife & children's names, there's also a very likely match for him on the US 1910 census age 16, which fits, at Formosa Street, Pittsburgh Ward 13, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, with three sisters and his widowed mother Annie. David & youngest sister Ruth are listed as born Pennsylvania, Annie snr, Jean and Annie jnr. are listed as born Scotland. I didn't locate any US records which show Annie. snr's maiden surname which would be a vital clue for a search further back... I think establishing that would be the breakthrough to confirming any possible Scottish records...

now for some speculation...

the transcripts on the 1891 Scottish census show a 'Brownlie' household at Crawford Street, Govan, Partick, Lanarkshire, Scotland which might fit - father is David (32) a 'Sewing Machine Mechanic', wife is Annie (28) Annie jnr. (3) and Jane (<1) - Jeane and Jean are interchangeable in Scotland... the ages fit with the 1910 US census record..

and finally the UK kept some records of passengers leaving from the 1890s onward and a search of these show a Brownlie family leaving Glasgow, Scotland for New York, USA in 1893 on the Devonia (Anchor Line) - with David a farmer[?] wife Annie (no ages given), children Anne (4), Nellie (2)[?] and Jannie (infant)...

Thank you for this information. This is definitely my family from the "Brownnlee" side. There seems to be Brownlee's in Ireland in Ulster providence and Cavan county. I am not sure if Brownlee started in Scotland and traveled to Ireland or started in Ireland and trsaveled to Scotland. Any ideas? Also my mother's maiden name was Phyllis Irene Shaeffer born in Pennsylvania. Her parents were Mary Shaeffer (nie Shaeffer) and Elmer Shaeffer. I tyhink there may be an Irish connection on this side of the family tree. Thank you for any reply.

Barry Brownlee

Greetings,

Does anyone know if there are still any Brownlee's in Cavan?

Blessings,

Barry Brownlee

Barry,

There were 16 Brownlees in Cavan in the 1901 census. So about 5 households. Alternative spellings in that census are Brownly, Brownley & Brownlie.

1 was RC, 1 Presbyterian, 1 Methodist and the rest Church of Ireland. That broadly points to the name being an incomer name, probably from Scotland. Probably in the 1600s.

No Brownlee (or variants) in the current Irish phone book for Cavan, though obviously not everyone is listed these days. But there are only 5 listed for the whole of Ireland (all in or around Dublin), so not a common name now anywhere in the country.

Barry,

There were Brownlees in Cavan in 1787. My great great Grandfather William Henry Ferguson married Ellen Brownlee in Cavan Parish  on 4 September 1833. Her father was born in 1787 and was a policeman in Belturbet, County Cavan. Ellen died on 21 March 1866 and is buried in the Ballyhaise churchyard where a headstone to her memory was erected by her three sons. Now while those Brownlees may not be related to you in any way, it is wrong to assume that no Brownlees were in Cavan at that time. They may have come from Scotland in the 1600's when the clearances took place there and scottish residents fled to Ireland.

Hopr that gives you another lead

Jim Ferguson

New Zealand