Condon Family from Ballyhooley 2/2017 Update: I think I have found them in Killdorrey

Apologies for the very long delay in answering your message. Have you learned any more about the above?

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

I am just discovering this response!

I have not able able to break through this brick wall but it is not for lack of trying. Any help is appreciated.

Pamela

Dear Pamela:

Thank you for your post to Ireland Reaching Out and for keeping in contact.

It would appear that Ballyhooley records are located in the Castletownroche parish.  I have had a quick look for you on Roots Ireland database and there are two entries for an Ellen Condon--however, neither has a father named Richard. 

They are below:

1. 

Ellen Condon     Date of Birth:     
           Date of Baptism:     30-Mar-1845
Address:     Templenoe     Parish/District:     CASTLETOWNROCHE
Gender:     Female     County     Co. Cork
        Denomination:     Roman Catholic
Father:     William Condon     Mother:     Johanna Dunan
Occupation:             
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:     William Nagle
    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:     Mary Condon
    Notes:
    

PRIEST: W.HOGAN

2.

Ellen Condon     Date of Birth:     
           Date of Baptism:     10-May-1846
Address:     Ballymaclaurence     Parish/District:     CASTLETOWNROCHE
Gender:     Female     County     Co. Cork
        Denomination:     Roman Catholic
Father:     Bartholomew Condon     Mother:     Jane Kennedy
Occupation:             
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:     Philip Connell
    Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:     Mary Condon
    Notes:
    

PRIEST: W.HOGAN
Do you have a death certificate for any of the Condon siblings that might list parents' names?

That would be a big help.  Are you also sure of Ballyhooly as the parish?  If you need further assistance, please let me know

Kind regards,

Jane.

Dear Jane,

Thank you so much for checking. I have only what a family member told me regarding the parish being Ballyhooley.

I have not yet been able to get the death record nor the obituary for Ellen Condon.  Checking for the death records for her sister is a great idea and one that had slipped my mind. I will get on that and let you know what I learn. 

Thanks so much for your help.

Pamela Shea

Dear Pamela:

You are most welcome!!  Please keep us posted as to what you are able to discover and if you need further assistance, please let us know.

Kind regards,

Jane.

Dear Jane,

Today I received the death certificate for Bridget Condon, Ellen Condon's sister, and it states that her parents were John Condon and Mary Cahalane both of Cork, Ireland! I don't know where my uncle got Richard and Soibhan although Richard Condon is definately a name that is prevalent in the family. Is Cahalane an irish name? I am wondering if they meant Callaghan? Bridget's age was listed as 76 years in 1925 but date of birth was unknown. Bridget Condon is buried here in Yonkers, NY as is Mary Condon who I am now convinced is their mother. I am wondering if John Condon died in Ireland and Mary and Bridget joined Ellen here in the US. At this point that is just a theory and an avenue to research. I hope to spend some time this weekend searching for records but if you have any leads I will appreciate them.

Thanks again for suggesting that I get her sister's death record!

Pamela

Hi Pamela, I stumbled across this post last night. I too have also been researching this line recently as I am a Condon (living in Ireland not too far from the area) and am trying to find out more about my great grandfather, Patrick Condon. I believe that the family above may be his aunt, uncle and cousins - I am currently trying to validate this.  What I have found, thanks to roots ireland  is as follows:

John Condon and Mary Cahillane were married in Kildorrery in 1842. By the way, Cahillane is not uncommon particularly in Cork. I know several people of this name. They had four children:

Ellen was baptised on the 4 Dec 1842 in Kildorrery (sponsors Winifred McMahon and William Cahillane) Bridget was baptised 15 Oct 1844 (sponsors Timothy Noonan and Margaret Noonan). Richard was born 31 Oct 1846 (sponsors Mary Daly and Michael Magner). John Condon baptised 19 June 1851 (sponsors Patrick Mahony and Catherine Magner) and Mary Condon, baptised 1 May 1862 (sponsors Michael Cahillane and Margaret Hanlon). I found no record for an Edward or Edmund.  Looking at your note above, i suspect that the Mary buried with Bridget is  more likely her sister - not her mother. Could Edmund possibly be John - Edmund may be his second name? All these details are available on www.rootsireland.ie, which is subscription based but well worth it -  a great source of information.

We too had a Richard Condon in our family (known as Old Dick). We have tracked our Dick who emigrated in 1864 and who lived in Vanderbildt Avenue Brooklyn. He died on June 18 1931 and his death record says his father is John Condon. We know that they came from near Mitchelstown Tracking back on the dates and location (I also have a subscription to Ancestry, which is good on US data() we think that the strongest possibility is that our Richard and the Richard born to  John Condon and Mary Cahillane were one and the same - in short, our Richard may be your Ellen and Bridget's brother.  Our Richard (known as Dick) had a junk/bottling business in NY - have you ever heard anything like that in your family? I note that you were able to source Bridget's death certificate. Can you tell me how you did this as if I could get Richard's death certifciate, it should also record in full his parent's names, which would prove matters?  We have found his father is John but we have no details on his mother's name. . Would love to hear from you as we may well be cousins.  I have recently done my DNA analysis with Ancestry and that too has also been helpful. Regards, Annie

Hello Annie, 

I am so sorry that your message fell through the cracks. My mom's been in the hospital the past couple weeks and I've been very distracted. But I rediscovered your post last night and I am happy to exchange information.

Ellen Condon was my great great grandmother. She immigrated to this country in about 1862 and went to Stonington, Connecticut where she lived with Richard Condon and his wife Ellen O'Donnell Condon. I haven't yet figured out how Ellen and Richard are related. I was thinking maybe he was her uncle. Also, living in Stonington was Edmund/Edward Condon/Congdon who fought and died in the Civil War. I think he was Richard's brother. Additionally, in the area I believe there was a Patrick and John Condon not sure if or how they are related.
If you search Ancestry for them make sure you search Stonington, Connecticut and Westerly, Rhode Island. They are in two different states but right over the border from each other and years ago the borders changed. Also, make sure that you check the spelling "Congdon" as records for this Richard Condon family are found with both spellings. However be careful as there is another family in the Stonington area with the name Congdon. 

Shortly after arriving in Stonington Ellen met and married John Herlihy in1866 and they move to Yonkers, New York. It is there that you find Ellen's sister Bridget living with her and eventually her mother Mary. I believe Mary Condon the mother stayed in Ireland until her husband John died and then joined her daughters in New York however that's just a hunch I don't know for sure. I ordered Bridget's and Mary's and Ellen's death records from the city of Yonkers which provided some great information. Mary's parents were Michael and Mary Cahalane and I think Mary's maiden name was Fennell. 

Another avenue to research is that one of the godparents for one of John and Ellen Herlihy's children was a Lawrence Condon. There is a Lawrence Condon who ran a grocery business in Yonkers and his oldest son's name was Richard and his brother's name was Richard but I haven't yet been able to determine if this Lawrence Condon is related to Ellen Condon Herlihy or the Richard Condon in Stonington, CT. 

Lastly, I have not heard anything about a Richard Condon in Brooklyn but that doesn't mean anything. I will see what I can find regarding this individual. I did a quick look at family search.org and his death record as you stated lists his father as John but there's no indication of a mother's name listed. I will try to get you a copy of the actual death certificate. As I'm sure you know the value of a death record is only as good as the person filling it out. Since on Richard's death certificate his marital status is listed as unknown that would indicate to me that whomever filled it out did not know him well. I will do some searching when I have a chance and see if I can find more on him. It appears that he was married to a woman named Margaret by 1880 and so if you can find their marriage record that could provide the parents names as he, Richard, would have filled out the application

 
My mother tested her DNA through FTDNA but I haven't had time to do very much with the results.
Please email me at pamelashea2@aol.com so we can correspond further. It would be exciting to find we're cousins.

Sincerely, Pamela 

Annie,

I believe I have found Richard Condon's mother's name in a New York City marriage record! If I have it right it says that his father was John Condon and his mother was Ellen Lonerigan. Please email 9see above) to discuss further and I can send you a copy of the actual image.

Pamela