I am looking for information on my family back in (Kilmoe)Toormore. My great grandfather was Daniel Donovan (b 1835?- 1908?)his wife was Johanna Gainey Donovan (b1846?-1925?) may have been married around 1868. They had 6 children, Tim (1872?), Catherine (1875?), Dan (2/12/1878), Mary (1880?), William (1883?), and John (1887?). All but William went to the United States 1892,1895,1899,1902,1909 respectively. When her mother dies, Mary returns to Ireland @ 1925 to stay. I have found the family on the 1901 and 1911 census. In 1901, they live at 18 toormore, toormore. I don't know if that is an house address or if is the number of the plot or what. In 1911, they live at 31 toormore, toormore. Their birth in Ireland itself is in question, Both of the older brothers reference as being born in England. I do not know why they reference England or how to track them there in England. What I can say and I hope someone knows is: that Miss Mary Donovan, owns a shop in Toormore from around 1935 to her death sometime in the 1950's. And her brother, William was a postman and maybe a postmaster in the 1940's until his death around the 1950's. I found that in the Guy's directory. I am sure they are all buried together, but I do not know where. My grandfather went back to Ireland to bury the last one because they did not have anyone to bury them.
As for the Gainey, I know that one sister moved to New Beford Mass. it is unknown when. But she might have been married to Maloney or a Mahoney. She also had two sisters a Julia (18 years old)that went to New Bedford and a Mary(20 years old) that went to Lewiston Maine in April of 1895, they were traveling with my aunt.
So does anyone know or have any information. I sent a letter to St Patrick's in Goleen about 3 months ago and I have yet to receive a response.
Thanks
DDonovan
Wednesday 11th Mar 2015, 09:23PMMessage Board Replies
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Hello John have a look at www.historicgraves.ie it has documented several graveyards in Ireland not sure if your area of interest is on as yet it is a work in progress. Regards Frances
byegonedays
Wednesday 11th Mar 2015, 09:48PM -
John:
The house numbers in the 1901 and 1911 censuses do not have any significance. The constables were the enumerators. They visited all the houses in a townland to pick up the forms and the number assigned was based on the order they visited houses within the townland.
I went to www.irishgenealogy.ie which has church records for the Diocese of Cork and Ross including the Schull West parish which includes your family. I was able to locate two baptismal records for Michael (1870) and Timothy (1869). You may be able to find other records. The three children in the 1901 census were born in Co. Cork (according to the form) so now there are five of the six children born in Cork.
Regarding where the family was buried in the 1900s, you may want to check with the church in Goleen to see if they can assist.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Wednesday 11th Mar 2015, 09:56PM -
One last question. The "landowner's" name is blank for their land. Does this mean that there is no owner? Could it be "unregistered" land? Any advice on finding the original home. I understand that the one son who stayed in Ireland lived in the original home until his death. I am hoping that I can find the ownership and property number through the sale of the home, if he owned it. Is this a resonable approach?
sonofireland
Monday 8th Jun 2015, 05:44PM -
One last question. The "landowner's" name is blank for their land. Does this mean that there is no owner? Could it be "unregistered" land? Any advice on finding the original home. I understand that the one son who stayed in Ireland lived in the original home until his death. I am hoping that I can find the ownership and property number through the sale of the home, if he owned it. Is this a resonable approach?
sonofireland
Monday 8th Jun 2015, 05:44PM -
One last question. The "landowner's" name is blank for their land. Does this mean that there is no owner? Could it be "unregistered" land? Any advice on finding the original home. I understand that the one son who stayed in Ireland lived in the original home until his death. I am hoping that I can find the ownership and property number through the sale of the home, if he owned it. Is this a resonable approach?
sonofireland
Monday 8th Jun 2015, 05:47PM -
John:
In the 1911 census, the owner of the property was James Johnson who lived in house 30.
You may want to contact the Schull library branch to see if they can assist you with tracking the property.
Roger
http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Libra…
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Monday 8th Jun 2015, 06:32PM -
Thank you all.
Would anyone know if the O'Sullivan family (used to be the blacksmiths from the early 1900's to 1945) in Toormore are still in the area? Also I am looking for the decendants of Michael, Patrick and Timothy Coughlan also from Toormore or Alter. The oldest brother named Jeremiah left Toormore in 1926 and lived Lewiston Maine and he passed away in 1984 at age 90. The obituary stated that Michael and Patrick were still alive.
Who would I contact to find out if and when a cemetry expanded landwise from 1909 thru 1960?
Just so I cover all my bases. If there are any of the above referenced family members, or the following families still in Toormore, I would like to contact them. Barry, Bennett, Johnson (Johnston) James, Gayney (Gainey).
Thanks
sonofireland
Sunday 20th Dec 2015, 09:11PM