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I was wondering if you could help me or tell me where to look?

My grandfather was born in Mallow in 1894 his name was DAVID ALOYSIUS O'DWYER.

I would love to know his parents names and his siblings names as well.

Any other family information would be great to get hold of too.

Thank you

Frances 

Matska

Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 03:24AM

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  • Frances,

    Attached record may refer to your query.  The year is 1893.

    Credits: www.irishgenealogy.ie  - Free site  and www.nationalarchives.ie  - Irish Census - Free

    Best Wishes,

    McCoy

    Wednesday 1st Dec 2021, 08:26AM
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    Hello Frances,

    I am not the Ireland Reaching Out volunteer referenced by Castlemore Roscommon, but found several primary source records about David Aloysius O’Dwyer and his family that you may be interested in.

    This reply will add to the information that McCoy had provided in his response of 1 December 2021.

    THE 1911 CENSUS OF IRELAND

    The 1911census transcription for 17 year old David A. O’Dwyer and his family shows that their residence was “house 20 in Davis Street (Mallow, Cork).” You can access the census record transcription from the National Archives of Ireland website link at:
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Mallow/Davis_Stre…

    Once the transcription appears make sure you click on “Show all information” to view the full census page from left to right.

    For a copy of the original 1911 census from the National Archives of Ireland: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001984729/

    The 1911 census shows that David’s father, 64 year old Stephen O’Dwyer, is a farmer from County Tipperary who could read and write and who was married. The census shows he was married for 16 years as of 1911 and in that time period had 2 children, with both children still alive.

    Stephen’s wife is 48 year old Margaret. She could read and write and was from County Cork.

    Davis, at 17, is the oldest child in the household. He is followed by 15 year old Stephen B.J. O’Dwyer and 13 year old James M. O’Dwyer. David, Stephen Jr. and James were all scholars and were born in County Cork.

    Also in the household is Stephen Sr’s sister-in-law, 49 year old Nora McSwiney, a farmer who could read and write. She was single and born in County Cork. Nora would be Margaret’s sister, which means McSwiney would have been Margaret’s maiden name. All in the household are Roman Catholic.

    Stephen Jr. and James would be the children of Stephen Sr. and Margaret.

    David A. O’Dwyer would not be Margaret’s child. This is confirmed by David’s 9 November 1893 birth record that McCoy attached to his reply, showing that David Aloysius O’Dwyer’s mother was Isabella Dunlea. What this also means is that David’s father Stephen was previously married to Isabella Dunlea.

    According to a Wikipedia article, Main Street, Mallow, is also called Davis Street. See the “Economy” subheading of the Wikipedia article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallow,_County_Cork

    On some maps of Mallow, you’ll also see that Main Street called, Thomas Davis Street.

    THE 1901 CENSUS

    The 1901 census shows the O’Dwyer family were the “residence of a house 5 in Main Street (Mallow North Urban (Cork).” See the transcription at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mallow_North_Urba…

    Once again click on “Show all information” to view the full census page.

    A copy of the original 1901 census can be viewed at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000552505/

    The 1901 census shows that 53 year old Stephen O’Dwyer was a “Hotel Proprietor” from County Tipperary. His 39 year old wife Margaret was born in County Cork. The oldest child in the household is 19 year old Mary L. O’Dwyer, who was born in County Cork. Mary is not in the 1911 census with her family. This brings up the question: Did Mary O’Dwyer and David O’Dwyer have the same mother?

    The 1901 census shows that David A. O’Dwyer is 7 years old, and so Mary would have been 10 years older than he was.

    The 1901 census also shows that 5 year old Stephen J. and 3 year old James M were also in the household, as was 40 year old Nora McSwiney, who is recorded as a “Visitor.” The household also includes a servant, 22 year old Margaret Seston.

    The 1911 and 1901 census enumerations prompted me to look for four records. These are the marriage record for Stephen O’Dwyer Sr. and Margaret McSwiney; the death and marriage record for David’s mother Isabella Dunlea; and the
    birth record for Mary L. O’Dwyer, to see if her mother was also Isabella Dunlea, or if her mother was someone else.

    If Mary and David did not share the same birth mother, their father Stephen would have been married three times.

    Having been married for 16 years as recorded in 1911 means that Stephen O’Dwyer and Margaret McSwiney would have been married circa 1894-1895.

    I found the marriage record at the free irishgenealogy.ie website, showing that Stephen O’Dwyer and Margaret McSwiney were married in the “Roman Catholic Chapel of Pro Cathedral,” Dublin, on 18 September 1894. The marriage record is attached to this reply, and shows that at the time of marriage both Stephen and Margaret were of “full age,” meaning over 21 years old.

    The marriage record also shows that Stephen was a “Widower,” and that his occupation was “Merchant & Farmer.” His residence at the time of marriage was Mallow, County Cork. His father was William O’Dwyer, who was a farmer.

    At the time of marriage Margaret McSwiney was a “Spinster,” meaning she had never been married before. No occupation is recorded for her. Her residence at the time of marriage was Droomina, Dromagh, County Cork. Her father was Denis McSwiney, a farmer.

    The priest who married Stephen and Margaret was J.M. McSwiney, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for Catholic Curate. He was likely related to Margaret as they share the same last name. He was probably her uncle or maybe her brother. He was probably the reason that Stephen and Margaret were married in Dublin, rather than in a Catholic Church in Mallow, County Cork.

    The record further shows that the witness to the marriage were Patrick Kennedy and Nora McSwiney. Nora would have been Margaret’s sister, and the same Nora McSwiney recorded in the 1911 and 1901 census in the O’Dwyer household in Mallow.

    Stephen and Margaret signed the marriage register, meaning they could read and write. The marriage was recorded in the Dublin North Registration District on 29 September 1894 by the Deputy Registrar, J.P. Garlan.

    The Pro Cathedral where Stephen and Margaret were married is called St. Mary’s Pro Cathedral, with an address of 83 Marlborough Street, Dublin. The cathedral was constructed between 1815 and 1825. For more information and photos, see the Wikipedia article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary%27s_Pro-Cathedral

    For a Google Map showing the location of the cathedral in Marlborough Street, Dublin, see: https://tinyurl.com/yc3sw5ey

    For a Google Street View of the cathedral, go to: https://tinyurl.com/2p9fpath

    The civil registration birth record for David Aloysius O’Dwyer provided by McCoy shows that David was born on 9 November 1893. His father Stephen and Margaret McSwiney were married on 18 September 1894, less than a year after David was born. David’s mother Isabella would have died either during childbirth or sometime not long after David was born.

    To find out when Isabella O’Dwyer had died, I looked for her death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it. Isabella had died on 21 November 1893. Her place of death was “West End Mallow.” At the time of death she was married, 31 years old, and the “wife of a Hotel Proprietor & Farmer.” The cause of death was “Puerperal Peritonitis 6 days.”

    The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the assistant registrar was “Stephen Dwyer Widower of Diseased.” His residence was West End Mallow. The Assistant Registrar, Barth Barry, recorded the death in the Mallow Registration District on 20 December 1893. The death record is Number 80 in the attached death register.

    I next found the civil registration marriage record for Stephen O’Dwyer and Isabella Dunlea. They were married in the Roman Catholic Church of Macroom (County Cork), on 8 October 1890. At the time of marriage Stephen was 39 and Isabella 27. The marriage record further shows that Stephen was a widower and was employed as a “Hotel Keeper,” whose residence was Mallow. His father was William O’Dwyer, a “Deceased farmer.”

    Isabella was a spinster at the time of marriage. Her occupation was “Farming.” Her residence at the time of marriage was Churchtown, Buttevant, Her f ather is Edmond Dunlea, who was “farming” and who was still living at the time of the marriage. The priest who married Stephen and Isabella was John, Archdeacon Cullinane. The first name of one of the witnesses to the marriage was Michael. I couldn’t tell what his last name was. The second witness was Elizabeth Dunlea, who may have been Isabella’s sister.

    The marriage record shows that Isabella was living in Churchtown, Buttevant, which means she lived nearby the larger town of Buttevant.

    Stephen was living in Mallow at the time of the marriage, A Google Map shows that Churchtown, Buttevant is north of Mallow, and that Macroom is southwest of Churchtown, Buttevant, and Mallow: https://tinyurl.com/2p82nkas

    A Google Street View shows the Catholic Church in Macroom is St. Coleman’s located off Chapel Hill: https://tinyurl.com/yx6uf83u

    For a Google Street View of St. Coleman’s Roman Catholic Church, Chapel Hill, Macroom, go to: https://tinyurl.com/ycks47dr

    According to the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland website, St. Coleman’s Catholic Church is located in a section of Macroom called Sleveen East. The church was constructed circa 1840. For more information go to the Buildings of Ireland link at: https://tinyurl.com/yckhn7c3

    For a Google Street View of Isabella Dunlea’s place of residence, Churchtown, Cork, in 1890, see: https://tinyurl.com/yckr75wy

    The 1890 marriage record for Stephen and Isabella does not give an exact residence in Mallow for Stephen, but David’s 1893 birth record shows he was born in Main Street. The hotel that Stephen ran may have been located in Main Street.

    A Google Map shows the location of Main Street in Mallow: https://tinyurl.com/35f879xj

    For a Google Street View of Main Street Mallow, go to: https://tinyurl.com/5n9azjb7

    Isabella O’Dwyer’s death record shows she died in a location called West End in Mallow. West End is actually an extension of Main Street, as you can see on the Google Map at: https://tinyurl.com/2p9ft68x

    Here is a Google Street View of West End Mallow: https://tinyurl.com/2p876skz

    With a little further research I found that Stephen and Isabella had a child before David. The child is not Mary L. O’Dwyer, but Francis Joseph O’Dwyer.

    Francis was born in West End, Mallow, on 5 September 1892. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer whose residence was West End. Stephen’s occupation is “Hotel Proprietor.” Francis’s mother is Isabella O’Dwyer, formerly Dunlea. Stephen reported the birth to the Assistant Registrar, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 5 December 1892. The birth record is Number 167 in the attached register.

    MARY L. O’DWYER

    At 19 years old in the 1901 census Stephen’s daughter Mary L, would have been born circa 1882. The presence of Mary L. O’Dwyer in the 1901 census and the absence of Francis in the 1901 census prompted me to look for a death record for Francis and a birth record for Mary. First the death record.

    I didn’t find a death record for Francis between the year of his birth in 1892 and the 1901 census. I also looked for his death record for the years 1902 to 1911, but again did not find it. It’s possible his parents didn’t report his death to the registrar after Francis died.

    Mary L. Dwyer was 19 according to the 1901 census, which places her year of birth circa 1882. I next looked for her birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it.

    Mary Louisa O’Dwyer was born in West End, Mallow, on 29 December 1882. Her father is Stephen O’Dwyer, a “Hotel Keeper” residing in West End. Mary’s mother is Mary O’Dwyer, formerly O’Connor. Stephen reported the birth to the Assistant Registrar who recorded Mary’s birth in the Mallow Registration District on 3 February 1882. That doesn’t make sense, having been born on 29 December 1882, but her birth being recorded on 3 February 1882, 10 months before she was born. She must have been born on 29 December 1881. The Assistant Registrar made an error by writing that she was born in December of 1882 rather than in December of 1881. Mary’s death record is the last entry in the death register, which is attached to this reply.

    At the irishgenealogy.ie website I next looked for the marriage between Stephen O’Dwyer and Mary O’Connor. I didn’t know what year they were married and so I looked for the years 1870 to 1881. I didn’t find the marriage record for a Stephen O’Dwyer initially, but did finally uncover the marriage under the name Stephen Dwyer.

    Stephen Dwyer and Mary O’Connor were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Mallow on 9 September 1871. At the time of marriage Stephen was a 28 year old bachelor. His occupation was not Hotel Keeper or Hotel Proprietor, but “Police Man.” His residence at the time of marriage was Mallow. His was is William Dwyer, a farmer who is “living.”

    Mary at the time of marriage was a 20 year old spinster with “No profession.” Her father is James O’Connor, a baker who was “living.”

    The priest who performed the marriage ceremony was the Rev. Maurice J. Moriarty. The witnesses to the marriage were Marcellinus M. Nunan and Lizzie O’Connor. Lizzie may have been Mary’s sister. The civil marriage record is attached to this reply.

    I also found the Mallow Catholic Church Parish marriage record for Stephen and Mary at the National Library of Ireland website. The marriage record is also attached to this reply.

    You can search for Catholic Church baptisms, marriages, and burials by county and by parish at the National Library of Ireland search engine at: https://registers.nli.ie/

    The Catholic Church in Mallow is called St. Mary’s and is located off Main Street. See the Google Map at: https://tinyurl.com/yckv437f

    For Google Street Views of St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Mallow: https://tinyurl.com/5a968pa6 and https://tinyurl.com/nhe4yvmc

    According to the St. Mary’s Parish website, the church was constructed in 1818. Go to the following link for more information: https://mallowparish.ie/ourchurches/

    Going back to the irishgenealogy.ie website I next located the civil registration birth records for three more children of Stephen Dwyer and Mary O’Connor. These children are William (1872); Michael Charles (1876); and Walter Cecil Mary.

    William was born on 8 October 1872. His birthplace is Bridge Street, Mallow. His birth record shows a middle name, which could be John, but I can’t be sure. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer a “Shop Keeper” of Bridge Street. William’s mother is Mary O’Dwyer, formerly O’Connor. Stephen reported the birth to the Registrar, Parsons Berry, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 9 November 1872. William’s birth is Number 303 in the attached birth register.

    Michael Charles O’Dwyer was born in West End, Mallow on 26 September 1876. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer, a “Farmer” of West End. Michael’s mother is Mary O’Dwyer, formerly O’Connor. Stephen reported the birth to the registrar, Jas. I Walsh, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 13 October 1876. Charles’s birth is Number 23 in the attached register.

    Walter Cecil Mary O’Dwyer was born in West End on 15 September 1880. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer, a Hotel Keeper of West End. Walter’s mother is Mary O’Dwyer, formerly O’Connor. Stephen reported the birth to the registrar who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 12 October 1880. The birth record is attached to this reply.

    Over the years I have seen a few birth records for male children who were given the middle name “Mary.” Perhaps the most famous of Irishmen with the Middle name Mary was Joseph Mary Plunkett, who was one of the leaders of the Easter Rising of 1916 in Dublin. He was born in Dublin in 1887. For more information about him, see the irishcentral.com link at: https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/joseph-mary-plunkett-easter-…

    I next accessed the National Library of Ireland website where I found the Mallow baptism records for William, Michael, and Walter O’Dwyer. Baptism records, unlike birth records, give the names of the sponsors, or godparents of the child. The godparents are usually relatives or friends of the child’s mother and father.

    WILLIAM JOHN O’DWYER BAPTISM

    William O’Dwyer was baptized on 9 October 1872. His middle name John is the name I couldn’t decipher on his birth record. His parents are Stephen Dwyer and Mary O’Connor. The sponsor are Jeremiah Scanlon and Margaret Sheehan. The priest who baptized William was the Rev. Patrick Ahern. The baptism record for William is attached.

    MICHAEL CHARLES O’DWYER BAPTISM

    The attached baptism record for Michael Charles O’Dwyer shows he was baptized on 1 October 1876. The baptism record shows that he and his parents, Stephen O’Dwyer and Mary O’Connor were living in Bank Place, Mallow at the time of the baptism. Michael’s birth record gives the residence of the family as West End.

    Michael’s sponsors are John Fitzgerald and Lizzie O’Connor. Lizzie O’Connor was one of the witnesses at Stephen and Mary’s wedding.

    The priest who baptized Michael Charles was A. Morrissy.

    A Google Map shows where Bank Place, Mallow is in reference to Main Street and West End: https://tinyurl.com/5bm6tf95

    A Google Street View shows that Bank Place is an ally between the Stitch Express Bridal Store and the “an post” building, which is the post office: https://tinyurl.com/2p92kuke

    WALTER CECIL MARY O’DWYER BAPTISM

    Walter was baptized on 19 September 1880. At the time of the baptism he and his parents were living in West End. Walter’s sponsors are John O’Connor and Mary Nunan. His baptism record is attached to this reply.

    Baptism records at the National Library of Ireland are available until 6 May 1882. Mary Louisa O’Dwyer was baptized on 29 December 1882, and so unfortunately a baptism record is not available for her online.

    ISABELLA DUNLEA

    Because you are particularly interested in David Aloysius O’Dwyer, I next wanted to see if I could find more information about his mother, Isabella Dunlea. What little that is known about her comes from her 8 October 1890 Macroom Catholic marriage with Stephen O’Dwyer. The marriage record shows she was 27 years old at the time of her marriage, placing her year of birth circa 1863. The marriage record shows Isabella was a “Spinster,” meaning she had not been married before. At the time of marriage Isabella was a farmer. Her residence was Churchtown, Buttevant.

    Churchtown is 32 miles northeast of Macroom. Why was she married in Macroom, when she was living in Churchtown? Marriages traditionally take placed in the bride’s parish, which brings up the question: was Isabella originally from Macroom?

    The marriage record also shows that Isabella’s father was Edmond Dunlea, who was “farming,” and was still alive at the time of the marriage.

    I went to the Find My Past (FMP) website to see if I could locate a baptism transcription for Isabella Dunlea in County Cork. Because her age of 27 in the 1890 marriage record may not be accurate, I looked for her baptism in the 1850s and well as 1860s. I only found one child named Isabella Dunlea baptized in the 1850s and 1860s in County Cork. Isabella Dunlea was baptized in the Annakissy Catholic Parish, County Cork, on 2 February 1861. Her father is Edmd Dunlea. Her mother is Hannah Herlihy.

    Go to the following link. You’ll be prompted to establish a free account with the Find My Past website before viewing Isabella’s baptism transcription:
    https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1622782

    Attached to the transcription is a link that takes you to a copy of the original Annakissy Catholic Parish baptism record for Isabella. The baptism record is attached to this reply, and shows that the godparents are Batt Dunlea and Eliza Herlihy. The name “Batt” is short for Bartholomew. Batt Dunlea may have been Edmond’s brother and Eliza Herlihy Hannah’s sister.

    The baptism record does not record where Annabella and her parents were living at the time of the baptism.

    A Catholic Parish map from the National Library of Ireland shows that Annakissy Parish is east/northeast of Mallow and southeast of Buttevant, and so would have been in the area of Churchtown. See the map at: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0006

    The map page also gives the dates of the Annakissy baptisms and marriages. Baptisms for the parish begin on 16 June 1806 and are available to access until 17 April 1881.

    Marriages begin on 28 July 1805 and are available until 1 March 1881. There are gaps however in the Annakissy baptism and marriage records.

    You’ll also see that there were several alternate names/spellings for the Annakissy Catholic Parish: Monanimy; Anakissy; Killavulan; Wallstown; Clenor; Monanimny, Clenor and Wallstown; Monanimny.

    Annakissy was also called Annakisha, and was in the civil parish of Carrigleamleary, according to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base link at: https://tinyurl.com/yc8f6mdm

    I next found the FMP marriage transcription for Isabella’s parents, but not in the Annakissy Catholic Parish. The marriage record shows that “Edward” Dunlea and Hannah Herlihy were married in the Buttevant Catholic Parish on 21 February 1857. The address for Edward at the time of marriage was “Killanullen, Buttevant.” This is actually a reference to the townland of Killavullen, which on some maps is spelled Killawillin, and which was located in the Civil Parish of Monanimy.

    The address for Hannah at the time of marriage was Buttevant. See the FMP marriage transcription at:
    https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FMAR%2F0333837%2F1

    A copy of the original Buttevant Catholic Parish marriage record for Edward Dunlea and Hannah Herlihy can be fund at the National Library of Ireland link:
    https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632613#page/318/mod e/1up

    You’ll see two facing pages of the marriage register. The marriage for Edward and Hannah is on the left-hand register page, second entry down from the February 1857 heading. You can enlarge the register by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

    I’ve transcribed the marriage record below, keeping the few Latin words:

    21st Married Edward Dunlea de Killavullen, Buttevant
    et Hannah Herlihy de Buttevant Testes
    Franncis Herlihy & Edward Dunlea

    Below is the transcription in English:

    21st Married Edward Dunlea of Killavullen, Buttevant
    And Hannah Herlihy of Buttevant Witnesses
    Francis Herlihy & Edward Dunlea
    ____

    The name of one of the witnesses is the same as the name of the groom. Edward Dunlea the witness could have been Edward’s father or maybe cousin.

    The National Library of Ireland shows that Buttevant Catholic Parish baptisms are available from 1 July 1814 to 27 December 1879. Marriages are from 23 July 1814 to 20 February 1882. See: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0023

    A Google Map shows that the Catholic Church in Buttevant is called St. Mary’s, and is located in Main Street: https://tinyurl.com/yup3daf6

    For Google Street Views of St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Buttevant, see:
    https://tinyurl.com/yc76p86d and https://tinyurl.com/2j7e8az6

    St. Mary’s opened in 1836. For a brief history of St. Mary’s Catholic Church, go to the Buttevant and Lisgriffin Parish website at:
    https://www.buttevantparish.ie/history/#_saint-marys-church

    The link above also describes genealogical services offered by the church.

    I next wanted to see if Edmond/Edward Dunlea and Hannah Herlihy had any more children baptized either in the Annakissy Catholic Parish or the Buttevant Catholic Parish.

    The FMP website shows that three other children Edmond Dunlea and Hannah Herlihy were baptized in the Annakissy Catholic Parish. Their names and years of baptism are below. I’ve also included the baptism of Isabella so you can see the chronology of all four baptisms:

    Hanna Maria Dunlea, 1858
    Isabella Dunlea, 1861
    Emily Dunlea, 1862
    Christina Mary Dunlea, 1865
    ____

    1858 BAPTISM OF HANNA MARIA DUNLEA

    Hanna was baptized on 11 February 1858. See the FMP transcription at: https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1622508

    A copy of the original Annakissy baptism record for Hanna is found on the right-hand register page, 3rd entry below the February 1858 subheading. Her godparents are Jas (James) Hennessy and Eliza Butler: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634083#page/95/mode/1up

    1862 BAPTISM OF EMILY DUNLEA

    Emily was baptized on 30 November 1862, according to the FMP transcription at:
    https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1622923

    A copy of the original baptism record for Emily is the 4th entry down from the top of the right-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634083#page/102/mode/1up

    Emily’s godparents are Thomas O’Keeffe and Kate Hutch.

    1865 BAPTISM OF CHRISTINA MARY DUNLEA

    The FMP transcription shows that Christina was baptized on 8 January 1865. This means there is the possibility that she was actually born in December of 1864.

    Go to the following FMP website link to access her baptism transcription:
    https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1623104

    The baptism record for Christina is the 3rd entry up from the bottom of the left-hand register page at:
    https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634083#page/105/mode/1up

    Christina’s godparents are Dens (Denis) Dunlea and Bess Herlihy. The priest who baptized Christina was the Rev. P. Green.

    Civil Registration of births, marriages and death for all religious denominations began in Ireland in 1864. Because Cristina was baptized in 1865 I went to the irishgenealogy.ie website to look for her birth record, which I found.

    Christina Mary Dunlea was born in Breagoge, Buttevant, Cork, on 25 December 1864. Her father is Edward Dunlea, a farmer in Foxhall, Killamullen. Her mother is Hannah Dunlea, formerly Herlihy. Eliza Herlihy was present at the birth and reported the birth to the Registrar, James Patrick Sheehan, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 15 January 1865. You can access the birth record at the following link: https://tinyurl.com/3fbmb26a

    Christina’s birth record shows she was born in “Breagoge.” The other spelling for this town is Bregoge, which was located in the Civil parish of Bregoge.

    Christina’s father Edward at the time of birth was living in Foxhall, Killavullen. You can see the locations for Bregoge, Buttevant and Killavullen on a Google Map. Foxhall is not on the map:
    https://tinyurl.com/5n8rcfk2

    For a Google Street View of Bregoge, where Christina Mary Dunlea was born, see: https://tinyurl.com/yjbbx3hh

    After finding Christina’s birth record the question arose as to why her mother Hannah went to Bregoge for the birth. Were there Dunlea or perhaps Herlihy relatives living there?

    To find out I went to an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation.

    Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for the Civil parish and townland of Bregoge, as well as the surrounding parishes and towns, was completed by the year 1851, as 1851 was the year the valuation was printed.

    Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who paid to lease property, such as land, houses, and outbuildings. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman collecting the rent on Gale Day for the owner. This middleman was called the “Immediate Lessor.”

    You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the Ask About Ireland website link at:
    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

    Griffiths Valuation shows only one Occupier named Herlihy lasing property in the townland of Bregoge. This is Daniel Herlihy. See the attachment.

    Daniel Herlihy leased over 106 acres of land as well as offices and a house from an Immediate Lessor named the Earl of Egmont. Offices in a Griffiths Valuation are outbuildings such as barns, stables, blacksmith shops, piggeries, etc.

    The land Daniel leased was valued at 69 Pounds. The offices and house were valued at 12 Pounds. The total valuation for Daniel Herlihy’s property was 81 Pounds.

    Daniel would have paid a percentage of the 81 Pounds toward the tax. Griffiths Valuation shows that Daniel Herlihy’s property was located at map reference 1Aa B. Map reference 1AaB refers to a location marker on a map of Bregoge compiled for Griffiths Valuation. The map can be accessed from the Ask About Ireland website.

    I found the location of Daniel’s lease on the map. Only 1B is printed on the upper center of the map, which is attached.

    Daniel Herlihy was very likely related to Hannah Herlihy. He could have been Hannah’s father, brother, or uncle.

    Hannah would have been born before civil registration in Ireland. She and Edmond Dunlea married in 1857. I figured she would have been born sometime in the 1820s and 1830s, though I also looked for her baptism in the early 1840s. I couldn’t identify a baptism transcription for her at the FMP website. I didn’t find a baptism record for her in the Buttevant Catholic Parish, where she and Edmond Dunla were married, or in the Annakissy Catholic Parish where her children were baptized.

    EDMUND DUNLEA BAPTISM RECORD

    I next looked for Edmond Dunlea’s baptism transcription at the FMP website for the 1820s and 1830s. I found what I believe to be the FMP transcription showing that “Edmund Dunlan” was baptized in the Annakissy Catholic Parish on 27 April 1828. His parents are Edmund Dunlan and Joana Hurly. See the transcription at:
    https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1618312

    A copy of Edmund’s original baptism record is the last entry on the right-hand baptism register page at:
    https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634082#page/130/mode/1up

    After you enlarge the image you can see that the last name in the baptism record is Dunlea, rather than Dunlan.

    The baptism record shows that Edmund’s godfather was John Hagerty. The first name of his godmother was Margaret. Her last name may have been Cotter.

    I also found the Annakissy baptism transcriptions at the FMP website for six more children of Edmund Dunlea and Joanna/Johanna Hurly. The names and years of baptism of these children follows. I’ve also included the 1828 baptism for Edmund, which shows he was the oldest of the children. I’ve kept the spelling of the last names of the children as found in the transcriptions:

    Edmund Dunlan, 1828
    John Delea, 1829
    James Dunlea, 1831
    Johana Dunlea, 1839
    Pat Danlea, 1841
    Michael Dunlea, 1843
    Ellen Dunlea, 1845
    ____

    You’ll see there is a gap of 7 years between the baptism of James in 1831 and the baptism of Johana in 1839. I’m not sure why as I didn’t find there were gaps in the Annakissy baptism registers for the years 1832 through 1838.

    I didn’t find the baptisms for children of Edmund Dunlea and Johanna Hurly in other Catholic parishes for County Cork and neighboring County Tipperary.

    I also looked for the marriage of Edmund Dunlea and Johanna Hurly at the FMP website but didn’t find it.

    If you would like copies of the original Annakissy baptism records for the other six Dunlea children, I can send them to you in a follow-up reply.

    EDMUND DUNLEA IN GRIFFITHS VALUATION

    I found an Edmund Dunlea in Griffiths Valuation, though I don’t know if this is Edmund Dunlea Sr., or Edmund Dunlea Jr. The younger Dunlea was baptized in 1828, which would make him 23 years old when Griffiths Valuation was printed in 1851 for sections of County Cork like Annakissy and Killavullen. He would have been old enough at age 23 to lease property.

    If Griffiths Valuation refers to Edmund Dunlea Jr., I thought that he would have been recorded in the townland of Killavullen, where he was living when he married in 1857. But he wasn’t. Griffiths Valuation shows he leased a house, offices, and over 277 acres of land in a place called Ballynageehy, civil parish of Monanimy. Monanimy is the civil parish where Killavullen was also located.

    Edmund leased his property from an Immediate Lessor named John Arkins, Esq. The total valuation for Edmund’s lease was 45 Pounds. He would have paid a percentage of that amount toward the tax. The Griffiths Valuation entry for Edmund Dunlea is attached to this reply.

    Griffiths Valuation shows that Edmund’s property was located at map reference 4a on the Griffiths Valuation map, which is also attached, and shows the location of map reference 4 in Ballynageehy.

    Earlier you saw that Edward Dunlea was residing in Killavullen when he married Hannah Herlihy in 1857. The 1865 birth record for Christina Dunlea shows her father was living in Foxhall, Killavullen.

    If the Griffiths Valuation entry refers to Edmund Dunlea Jr. in Ballynageehy, he would not have moved very far to Killavullen. A Google Map shows that Killavullen is 1.8 miles northeast of Ballynageehy: https://tinyurl.com/2dta6unb

    For a Google Street View of Ballynageehy, go to: https://tinyurl.com/sdw5b63s

    BACK TO THE 20TH CENTURY

    The 1911 census for the family of 64 year old Stephen O’Dwyer and his 48 year old wife Margaret, shows they had been married for 16 years and in that time had 2 children, with 2 children still living. These children are 15 year old Stephen B.G. O’Dwyer and 13 year old James W. O’Dwyer.

    At 16 in 1911 Stephen O’Dwyer Jr. would have been born circa 1894-1895 if his age is accurate in the census.

    At 13 years old in 1911, James would have been born circa 1897-1898.

    I looked for the birth records of Stephen and James at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found them.

    Stephen Bernard Joseph O’Dwyer was born in West End, Mallow, on 1 October 1895. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer, a Hotel Proprietor and Farmer of West End. His mother is Margaret O’Dwyer, formerly McSwiney. Stephen the father reported the birth to the birth to the assistant registrar, Barth Barry, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 31 December 1895. The birth record is the last entry in the register at Number 118, which you can access at:
    https://tinyurl.com/ybphff8p

    James Michael O’Dwyer was born in West End, Mallow, on 5 April 1897. His father is Stephen O’Dwyer whose residence was West End. Stephen’s occupation is “Hotel Proprietor & Farmer.” James’s mother is Margaret O’Dwyer, formerly McSwiney. Stephen reported the birth to the assistant registrar, Barth Barry, who recorded the birth in the Mallow Registration District on 12 May 1897. James’s birth is Number 310 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/2p8wdr7v

    DEATH RECORD OF STEPHEN O’DWYER SR.

    According to his death record, Stephen O’Dwyer Sr. died on 28 April 1927. His place of death was Barrack Street, Mallow. At the time of death he was an 85 year old “Retired Merchant,” and was married. The cause of death was “Chronic Bronchitis. Hypostatic Congestion.” The person who was present at his death and who reported his death to the assistant registrar, was his son James O’Dwyer of Barrack Street, Mallow. The assistant registrar, B. Barry, recorded Stephen’s death in the Mallow Registration District on 30 May 1927. Stephen’s death is Number 118 in the death register at: https://tinyurl.com/326v35d5

    DEATH RECORD OF MARGARET O’DWYER

    Margaret O’Dwyer died at 19 West End, Mallow, on 1 January 1940 at the age of 81. At the time of death she was a “Widow,” of “Independent Means.” The cause of death was “Senile Decay. Cardiac Failure.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the assistant registrar, B. Barry, was Margaret’s son, Stephen O’Dwyer of 19 West End. J. Barry recorded the death in the Mallow registration District on 30 January 1940. Margaret’s death is Number 71 in the register at: https://tinyurl.com/2p8u2p2e

    CONCLUSION

    Records show that David O’Dwyer’s father Stephen was married three times. The first marriage was to Mary O’Connor in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Mallow, on 9 September 1871.

    The second marriage was to David’s mother, Isabella Dunlea. Stephen and Isabella were married in the Roman Catholic Church of Macroom (County Cork), on 8 October 1890.

    The third marriage was to Margaret McSwiney. They were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Pro Cathedral, Dublin, on 18 September 1894.

    David only had one sibling whose mother was also Isabella Dunlea, as far as I could tell. This was Francis Joseph O’Dwyer, who was born in West End, Mallow, on 5 September 1892.

    Francis is not in the 1901 or 1911 Irish census returns, but he likely died before the 1901 census was taken. I didn’t find a death record for him. His parents or another relative probably did not report his death to the district registrar for Mallow.

    David had at least four half siblings whose mother was Mary O’Connor. Mary O’Connor was Stephen’s first wife. Stephen and Mary had:

    William John O’Dwyer who was born in 1872
    Michael Charles O’Dwyer who was born in 1876
    Walter Cecil Mary O’Dwyer who was born in 1880
    Mary Louisa O’Dwyer, who was born in 1882.

    David also had two half siblings who were the children of his father Stephen and Margaret McSwiney. These children are Stephen Bernard Joseph O’Dwyer born in 1895; and James Michael O’Dwyer who was born in 1897.

    All of Stephen’s children from the three marriages were born in Mallow, County Cork.

    I didn’t find a marriage record for David O’Dwyer in Ireland after the 1911 census, and I figured he left Ireland for either England, the U.S., Canada, Australia, or New Zealand.

    I found that he went to Western Australia from records located at the Ancestry.com subscription website.

    For example, below is an index of David’s World War II military service record, showing he enlisted in Claremont, Western Australia. His next of kin is Ann O’Dwyer, who I suspect is his wife:

    Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945

    Name: David Aloysius O'Dwyer
    Birth Date: 10 Nov 1894
    Birth Place: Cork Ireland
    Year Range: 1939-1948
    Enlistment Place: Claremont, Western Australia
    Service Number: W26817
    Next of Kin: Ann O'Dwyer
    Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces

    Source Citation
    National Archives of Australia; Canberra, Australia; Citizen Military Forces Personnel Dossiers, 1939-1947; Series: B884
    ____

    I also found David in an Ancestry.com collection called “Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980,” dated 1954:

    Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

    Name: David Aloysius O'Dwyer
    Gender: Male
    Electoral Date: 1954
    Electoral Place: Belmont, Swan, Western Australia, Australia

    Source Citation
    Ancestry.com
    ____

    A copy of the election rolls page accompanied the index. I’ve attached the electoral roll page to this reply, which shows David Aloysius O’Dwyer and wife Annie O’Dwyer were living at what appears to be 43 Egham Road, Victoria Park. David’s occupation is labourer.

    The Australian Death Index from Ancestry.com shows that David died in 1959 in Perth, Western Australia. The index shows the first name of his father was Stephen and the first name of his mother, Isabella:

    Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985

    Name: David Aloysius O'Dwyer
    Death Age: 65
    Birth Date: abt 1894
    Death Date: Abt 1959
    Death Place: Perth, Western Australia
    Registration Date: 1959
    Registration Place: Perth, Australia

    Father: Stephen
    Mother: Isabella

    Registration Number: 1411

    Source Citation
    Western Australia Indexes to Vital Records 1906-1980
    ____

    The Find A Grave website has an entry for David: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/213697965/david-aloysius-odwyer

    David died on 1 June 1959 and is buried in the Karrakatta Cemetery and Crematorium, Karrakatta, Nedlands City, Western Australia:

    David Aloysius O'Dwyer
    BIRTH 1894
    DEATH 1 Jun 1959 (aged 64–65)

    BURIAL
    Karrakatta Cemetery and Crematorium
    Karrakatta, Nedlands City, Western Australia, Australia

    PLOT Roman Catholic-La-0075
    MEMORIAL ID 213697965

    Source Citation
    Find A Grave
    ____

    I hope this reply includes at least some of the information you’ve been looking for.

    I only wish I could have found more information about Stephen O’Dwyer Sr. and his parents in County Tipperary. Do you have any idea of where in County Tipperary he was from?

    Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    Sources

    National Archives of Ireland 1901 and 1911 census
    Wikipedia
    Google Maps
    Google Street Views
    irishgenealogy.ie
    National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland
    Catholic Parish Registers, National Library of Ireland
    https://mallowparish.ie/ourchurches/
    https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/joseph-mary-plunkett-easter-…
    Find My Past
    https://www.buttevantparish.ie/history/#_saint-marys-church
    Ask About Ireland/Griffiths Valuation
    Ancestry.com
    Find a Grave

    davepat

    Tuesday 7th Dec 2021, 04:21AM
  • Hi from Australia!  

    I've done some research on the Dunlea family and can tell you the children of Edmond & Joanna Hurly. 
    They were listed in the Last Will & Testament of John Dunlea, administered by his brother, James Dunlea. 
    There were three Dunlea brothers who went to Australia during the gold rush (James, John and Patrick), and they are all buried in the state of Victoria, Australia.

    The 10 siblings names listed are:

    Bartholomew Dunlea ????
    Edmund Dunlea 1828
    John Dunlea 1829 - 8 Oct 1864 (Died Scarsdale, Victoria, Australia in Gold mine accident).Buried Scarsdale Cemetery.
    James Dunlea 1831 - 28 Oct 1894 (Died at home, St Kilda, Victoria, Aust.) Buried St Kilda General Cemetery.
    Denis Dunlea ????
    Margaret Dunlea (Wife of John Forrest) ????
    Johanna (Hannah) Dunlea 1939
    Patrick Dunlea 1841 - 28 Jun 1870 (Died Graytown, Vic, Aust. Suicide by drowning. Buried Graytown Cemetery.
    Michael Dunlea 1843
    Ellen Dunlea 1845
     

    James said as follows in the Will administration document:

    I, James Dunlea of the City of Melbourne in the Colony of Victoria, merchant, make oath and say;
    1. That John Dunlea, late of Spring Gully Scarsdale in the Colony of Victoria, miner, deceased, departed this life on the eighth day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty four.
    2. That he left Bartholomew Dunlea, his eldest brother and person entitled to the administration of the property of the said deceased next of kin him surviving, but who is resident in the County of Cork in that portion of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, called Ireland.
    3. That he also left me, his elder brother, resident in the Colony of Victoria, and the following younger brothers and sisters and next of kin him surviving.
    That is to say; Denis Dunlea, Edmund Dunlea, Margaret Forrest (Wife of John Forrest), Hannah Dunlea, Michael Dunlea, and Ellen Dunlea, all of County Cork in Ireland aforesaid, and Patrick Dunlea of Dunolly in the Colony of Victoria aforesaid.
    4. That the said John Dunlea had at the time of his death, personal property in the said Colony not exceeding in value six hundred pounds, and that I am the eldest brother resident in the said Colony of Victoria, and am one of the next of kin of the said John Dunlea deceased, and the person residing in the said Colony entitled to the administration thereof.
    5. That I will well and truly collect and administer the property of the said John Dunlea, so far as the same will extend, and the law bind me to do so.
    6. That I will exhibit a full and true inventory of all his property together with a true account of the administration thereof, as I may be required by the Rules of this Honourable Court.

    Signed, James Dunlea.

     

    I hope this helps explain the seven year gap in the siblings births as mentioned in the above post. 

    Kind regards,

    Meg Bond

     

     

    Meg Bond

    Friday 14th Apr 2023, 02:14PM
  • Hi again,

    Just a quick note that I found a marriage notice for James Dunlea to Anne Nicholson (9th Oct 1856 at Williamstown, Vic, Australia) that says James is the fifth son of Edmund Dunlea, Ballymacmoy? (Sorry text is blurred), County Cork. 

    So I think the sons order is: Bartholomew, Denis, Edmund, John, James, then Margaret, Johanna, Patrick, Michael and Ellen.

    That was James' first marriage - he then married Margaret Conroy in February 1878 after Anne died in October 1876.

     

    Kind regards,

    Meg Bond

     

    Meg Bond

    Friday 14th Apr 2023, 04:47PM

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