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Gallagher, John Hugh b. 1864 son of Hugh and Ellen G. Gallagher, brother of Patrick b. Circa 1861

God Morning,  

I feel as though I have inquired of every county in the Republic.  I have a new direction from another DNA connection. She says her family was always told Cork.  Does Ireland Reaching out have any record for John Hugh Gallagher, RC, b. 1864 to Hugh and Ellen G. Gallagher?  He had at least one brother, Patrick. They may have emigrated together to NYC circa 1882.  Thank you.

 

 

 

Galand

Saturday 12th September 2020, 04:22PM

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  • hello Galand

    had a quick look and with so little information ,difficult to pin down but I did find a Hugh Gallagher who died on 11/3/1886 in Mitchelstown Co.Cork at 85 years of age and therefore born about 1801..such dates back then could be a few years out,.Interestingly a Patrick Gallagher was present at the death.  You should explore a website "familyorigins.ie" where births ,marriages and deaths are available free of charge from 1864 but the 100 year data protection rule applies.Baptisms and marriages are also available by parish back to about 1829 when Catholic Emancipation  was enacted ,some parishes have records back into the late 1700. They are very difficult to read but if you have a parish and a rough year it is possible wo get info.

    Good hunting

    Donie O Sullivan.

    Sunday 13th September 2020, 10:15AM
  • Thank you. I appreciate any direction you can offer. This is a very interesting tidbit.  Thanks for recommending family origins.  The hunt continues...

    Galand

    Monday 14th September 2020, 12:00PM
  • HelloGaland

    I gave you the wrong website it should be familygenealogy.ie

    Donie

    Wednesday 16th September 2020, 07:53PM
  • Donie, the site familygenealogy.ie is for hiring researchers.  There are no records available free.  I think you must have meant irishgenealogy.ie, which does have all the civil records and some church records free to find and, in many cases, view the original.

    Meg

    MegMS

    Thursday 17th September 2020, 03:15PM
  • Hi Galand:

     

    I will ask our Cork volunteer Frank to have a look for you.  Frank is very involved with Cork genealogy records and he will be able to direct your query.

    He will reply to you in the next week or so.

    Stay safe.

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Friday 18th September 2020, 12:59PM
  • Thank you.  Any direction on this is appreciated. I know these olds existed but I can't find a record there for love nor money. 

    Galand

    Friday 18th September 2020, 05:04PM
  • Meant to say folks.

    Galand

    Friday 18th September 2020, 05:06PM
  • Hello Galand

    Apologies for giving you the wrong website and it has been  corrected .I have the site bookmarked so I do not log in .It was on this site that I found the Gallaghers I mentioned. in Mitchelstown.A problem with that info was the presence of Patrick who I understand ,had emigrated. That site "irishgenealogy.ie" has a church records section worth looking into..There are 3 diocese incounty cork,Cloyne,Cork and Ross and some also in the Kerry diocese.The parishes in the Kerry diocese are located in north west cork,the Cloyne diocese covers north and east cork.while the cork and ross diocese covers cork city mid cork and west cork..Some of the church records for cork and ross,and kerry are in the church records on the website but Cloyne is not. .However you can get  results from Cloyne parishes from "mallowheritagecentre.ie"who will search the Cloyne parishes for a fee of about 50 euro for an individual or more for a family search.

    Regards. Donie

    Sunday 20th September 2020, 10:26PM
  • Hi Galand:

    We have a local volunteer with the programme who has been passed your query and he will respond to you shortly.

    Many thanks for your patience.

     

    All the best,

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Wednesday 23rd September 2020, 10:35AM
  • Hi Galand,

    Jane Halloran Ryan of IrelandXO asked me to look into your query into John Hugh.

    From the outset, may I point out that second Christian names such as John Hugh are very seldom used in Church Baptismal Records which are the oinly type of records available for the era  in question i.e dates before Civil Records. Also, you may or not be aware that the name Hugh in Ireland has several popular variations with the name Eugene in most instances regarded as being the original name. A selection of the many variations include, Hugh, Eugie, Gene, Hugie, Eoin, Owen, Eoghan.

    Bearing all of these factors in mind, I searched only for John Gallagher with a father named any of the above and in all of County Cork only found one John Gallagher born in 1861 to Eugene Gallagher and  mother Ellen Lehane.(Copies attached) in the Parish of Muintervara which includes the village of Durrus in West Cork

    I then searched for a marriage of Eugene Gallagher and Ellen and believe I found them with a small variation in the Bride's first name to Honora. Again, this can be accounted for by the use of a first name (Honora) possibly by the Bride as her baptismal name may have been Honora Ellen but using only the first name for the Marriage ceremony.this was also a common practice in those years. I will try to locate her Baptismal record in the coming days. The marriage record is also attached.

    Please ler me know your thoughts on this asap as if you do not agree I will not waste my time pursuing something you think is not correct.

    I have not found a Patrick Gallagher so far but will continue to look. One last thing, the marrage took place in Durrus (spelled incorrectly as Durris and the birthplace of John is given as Faunmore which is a Townland close to Durrus Village.

    Stay Safe & Well

    Frank Fahy

    frankfahy054@gmail.com.

    Abbeystrowry Cork

    Thursday 24th September 2020, 09:48PM

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    Thank you Frank. This is quite a lot of info to keep in mind. With name variations and conflicting dates I have no way of knowing if this family is on the right track.  I thought if I found a likely pair, names of other sibs may show up as names of John Hugh's children. There are no Eugenes or Honoras. There is a granddaughter named Helen but don't know if that fits in.

    In any case, I appreciate your attention to this and will continue with US records to see if I can pin down more specific info.

    Donie thanks you for your suggestions as well.

    Take care.

     

     

    Galand

    Friday 2nd October 2020, 02:21AM
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    Thank you Frank. This is quite a lot of info to keep in mind. With name variations and conflicting dates I have no way of knowing if this family is on the right track.  I thought if I found a likely pair, names of other sibs may show up as names of John Hugh's children. There are no Eugenes or Honoras. There is a granddaughter named Helen but don't know if that fits in.

    In any case, I appreciate your attention to this and will continue with US records to see if I can pin down more specific info.

    Donie thanks you for your suggestions as well.

    Take care.

     

     

    Galand

    Friday 2nd October 2020, 02:21AM