Mulcahy in County Cork

Hi Diana

Thank you for your query. Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, New York, etc.), this could be a good place to find more information. -And perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

Ellis Island: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp

Castlegarden: http://www.castlegarden.org/

US National Archives/Immigration info: http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/

( note: Cork was once called 'Queenstown' ) Many departures from Queenstown sailed to UK ports and then on to the USA . http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

Do you know what the religious denomination of you family was? : Most Catholic records are held locally - One site which might be of use is - http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/ - where you can ?browse? an overview of available records per county. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for possible assistance.

Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870-are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/.  The Anglican Record Project is has created an index to their records: http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/AngRecord/bunclodyunionindex.pdf

Presbyterian registers are held in three main locations: in local custody, in the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm and at the Presbyterian Historical Society http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com in Belfast. PRONI has microfilm copies of almost all registers in Northern Ireland and also lists of records held by the Presbyterian Historical Society. For the rest of Ireland, almost all records are in local custody. It can difficult to locate these as many congregations in the South have moved, amalgamated, or simply disappeared over the last sixty years.

You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp  or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64) http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/     or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) https://familysearch.org/        

The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive.

Diana here are some other websites that may be of use to you:

http://mallowheritagecentre.com/

http://www.skibbheritage.com/

http://www.corkarchives.ie/genealogy/

http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/

Remember to post as much information as you can with regard to the people you are researching. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.

Kind regards,                    

Genealogy Support 

Thank you so much for the wonderful information you gave me. I know that these ancestors were Roman Catholic. I have not been able to find definitive immigration information on which port they came to in the United States. Because of your suggestion, I will do more research on finding the immigration information..

Thanks for your help.  I appreciate it very much.

Diana

Hi Diana .my great great grand father was Daniel.i bet we are related.

Hi, I believe I am related to the brother Bartholomew Mulcahy who was born around 1838.  He had a son, John Mulcahy 

B: Oct 1861 New York, D:16 September 1915 Cohoes and married a woman named Margaret Finn. 

Thank you so much for replying! It's nice to meet you. John and his wife and 5 of their children that I was able to find are on my family tree. How are you related to John and Margaret? I am descended from Barthomew Mulcahy's (c. 1838) brother William Mulcahy. I have a tree on ancestry. Did you send the previous message about Daniel Mulcahy?
Diana Tierney

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The advice presented by 'Genealogy Support' regarding 'Queenstown' is not correct.

Cork (city) was not known as Queenstown. It was the Irish seaport town of Cobh that was also known as 'Queenstown' from 1849 - 1920. 

Furthermore, while "Most Catholic records are held locally -" may refer to Roman Catholic churches holding the original Parish Register Books in a safe (place) within each parish. It is fact that high quality scans of all Roman Catholic Parish Registers are held by the National Library of Ireland (NLI): Baptisms, Marriages and Burials. These scans of original script are transcribed by family history data vendors, who re-package the information into a searchable format.

It is most fortunate that the NLI scans are viewable free-online, as transcriptions can be incorrect and/or omit useful information, such as the names of "Sponsors" for the newly baptised child, and sometimes name the parties' residence or townland. These names frequently offer extra information about a family's close friends or relatives.  Good practice is to view the original record and check the transcription.   See:  https://registers.nli.ie

The standard procedure for migration to Australia, was the vessel arrived at the destination with more than 1 list.  There can be multiple lists:

1. Passenger list - naming people who were booked or expected to sail.

2. Embarkation list - names of people who boarded the vessel

3. Disembarkation - name of people who left the vessel at the destination.

For Australia, these lists may contain useful information: Age, Marital Status, Country of origin, Ethnicity, Occupation and Religion are commonly recorded.

Due to a DNA-connection, I had reason to explore one departure list from Cobh, bound for New South Wales, Australia of a MULCAHY family from Cork, aboard The Lady MacNaghten.  As a serious illness struck many passengers, and a large number perished, she became known as the 'Fever Ship'.  There is much literature about this 'Fever Ship'.

A DNA-cousin (in USA) wanted to establish descendancy from a member of this Mulcahy family, on the grounds that his ancestor had survived the trip to Sydney, Australia and then (somehow) managed to relocate himself from Australia to America, as a young boy and alone.

Fortunately, copy of the Embarkation list was available on film for viewing at NSW State Records. All members of the family boarded and were ticked.  However, one young boy's name was crossed out, and annotated - **Disembarked just prior to the vessel leaving the wharf (Cobh) and **has an Uncle in Cork (city).

I often wonder what happened to this young Mulcahy boy. Did he really have an Uncle to care for him? Did he have a premonition re The Fever Ship? Did he perhaps migrate as a young man to USA?   His mother and several siblings perished on the Fever Ship, and his father and surviving siblings settled in the Central Tablelands area of New South Wales.  The father and children had a tough time, with (possibly) false accusations of cattle-theft that led to the father committed to hard labour in gaol (jail). Yet, how the children survived without either parent is remarkable. Somewhere, there is a lonely grave for the father Mr Mulcahy,

I have a body of records and news stories about this Mulcahy family and am most willing to share with any interested readers.  Please post-reply with an email address, so I can send.

Eire2Go, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge about Irish records (I have to explore the records you mention'), emigration and your poignant history of the Mulcahy emigration and life in NSW. Yes, what happened to that other boy who stayed behind? Reading your post makes me think that my male family members should take a Y-DNA test. Perhaps the YDNA could help us link up to other Mulcahy's. Thank you for sharing. 
Diana (Mulcahy) Tierney

Hello Diana!

sorry for my delayed response! I couldn't figure out how to log back in until now. I found this in bartholomew: https://www.livingplaces.com/NY/Albany_County/Cohoes_City.html which shows that he was an alderman when the city of cohoes became incorporated   I don't know a whole lot about the mulcahy family as I'm relatively new to researching this part of my family .  my grandmothers mother was Helen mulcahy but died when my grandmother was young  

bartholomew would be my 3rd great grandfather and my family has lived in the cohoes Troy Waterford area forever . I did not post the other comment about Daniel though 

thank you! Kate

Nice to meet you, Kate! We are cousins. Thankyou for your info about Bartholomew. He was my 2gg's brother. Which of Bartholomews kids are you descended from? I have a tree on ancestry. which I will share with you if you have an ancestry account. Lots of info about our Mulcahy's and I found quite a few of Bart's kids and grandkids. 
Diana 

Nice to meet you too! The Mulcahy's are sort of the "lost" branch of my family. My grandmother's mother was Mulcahy but died when my grandmother was very young. Bart would be my 3rd great-grandfather and his son, John T Mulcahy is my great-great-grandfather. His daughter, Helen was my grandmother's mother... I also have an ancestry account, which I am active on and off over the years. I research very heavily and then give up. I'm in research mode recently and noticed that I think you made a comment on my tree. I do not have a paid account, so I'm not sure how to connect but would love to :) 

Kate

I found you on ancestry. I will try to give you access to my tree. FYI - My username is dianarocks8 and my tree is Tierney Family Tree. 
The Mulcahy's were from Watergrasshill in County Cork, Ireland; I read this in an old Cohoes publication - c I can't locate my sourceright now. I just noticed there was Watergrasshill (in Cork) group on this website.   Diana

Hi Diana, I am descended from William Mulcahy' son Cornelius. I have just started using familysearch.org to research my Mulcahy family. My grandfather, Raymond, used to tell me his family came from Cohoes, NY. I thought Bartholomew must be related to William! I wasn't sure.  Your information in this thread is so interesting.  I have not gone on ancestry yet.Thank you!