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Waldrons and McKennas of Rockmount - Fagans of Finglas

Looking relatives of/information about the Waldrons who lived in the townland of Balseskin in the house/estate called "Rockmount" that still stands along St. Margarets Rd.  My great great grandfather, Napoleon Theophilus Waldron (1814-1894)  was born there around 1814.  He married a local girl name Catherine "Kitty" Fagan (1833-1867) on 21 Nov 1850.  They immigrated to Cleveland, Ohio (via New York) in the U.S. in 1851. 

We know the following about this family.   Birth years are approximate.  Death and marriage years documented if listed.

Napoleon was one of at least 5 children of a John Waldron (17xx-1822) and Mary Anne Colligan (or Corrigan) Waldron (1794-1860).   While John died in 1822, his will was not probated until 1867.  We do not know where his grave is located.  Mary Anne lived at Rockmount until her death in 1860.  She is buried with her son William in Glasnevin Cemetery.

John and Mary Anne's children were

Charlotte Waldron  (1809-1897) - she married a Patrick Carey of Newtown, Coolock in 1863   Died in Newtown in 1897 and left her estate to one Julia Fitzsimons (not known if she was related or a friend).   She apparently did not have any children.

Henry Waldron (1815-  ) - immigrated to U.S. around 1839 and was last known to be living in Troy, New York around 1848 according to advertisement in Boston Globe posted by my great grandfather looking for him in 1866.  It is not known if he married or had any children.

William Waldron (1818–1866) Buried with his mother in Glasnevin.  He was married to an Elizabeth (maiden name unknown) according to probate advertisement.  They apparently did not have any children and her fate after his death is unknown.

John Waldron (1822- )  Emmigrated to Ottowa, Illinois in the U.S. in the company of a neighbor named James Carton in 1851.  He was a carpenter.   We do not know if he married or had children. 

 Elizabeth Waldron  - 1890)   Married a widower named Peter McKenna (1810-1884) from Rowanstown, Maynooth, Kildare in 1863.  After the death of her brother William in 1866, she apparently moved to Rockmount with her adopted family (her sister Charlotte Waldron Carey and her husband Patrick Carey may have also been living at the house).   At some point, her step son Peter McKenna apparetly took over the property and she died in Newtown (home of her sister Charlotte).

We know the fate of Napoleon and Kitty and all of their descendants.  We would like to reach descendants of Peter McKenna and learn what they know of the history of Rockmount.   I am also hoping to find relatives of John Waldron or Mary Anne Colligan Waldron or Kitty Fagan. 

Jim O'Reilly  - Cleveland Ohio U.S.A.

jimbotep

Monday 6th March 2017, 01:50PM

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  • Dear Jim:

     

    Many thanks for your query to Ireland Reaching Out, and your  very informative documentation.

    We have a volunteer associated with the project who may be able to assist and I will alert him to this message on your behalf.

    In the meantime, you can check for the family through the 1901 & 1911 Censuses using not only the surnames but also the place names where they lived (or you believe they lived). 

    The link for the Censuses is here:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

    If you like, you might also consider posting something about one of the family members on the XO Chronicles--by creating a profile on that individual.  That profile will be seen by all of our members and someone may be able to add to your research.

    The link for that is at the top of the page under XO Chronicles.

    A very Happy St. Patrick's Day to you and the best of luck with your research!

    Kind regards,

     

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Thursday 16th March 2017, 06:11PM
  • Dear Jim

    I am the volunteer to whom Jane referred - my own surname is also Waldron.

    I am afraid that I have not come across the Finglas Waldrons before.

    Napoleon is a most unusual name in Ireland, but is common in the Keeling family who run Ireland's largest horticultural business not far from Finglas.  See http://keelings.ie/our-growing-story/

    My own Waldron ancestors are from County Roscommon.

    I am always on the lookout for male Waldrons interested in a Waldron Y-DNA project.

    By the way, you may have been misled by the word "beneficiary" at http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/home.jsp which does not mean sole beneficiary, but means executor or administrator (and in some cases the executor is not a beneficiary at all).  The will of Charlotte Carey proved in Dublin in 1899 was probably destroyed in the fire in the Public Record Office during the Civil War in 1922, so it may be impossible to discover whether Julia M. Fitzsimons was a beneficiary or the sole beneficiary in addtion to being the executor.

    Best wishes

    Paddy Waldron

    Paddy Waldron

    Friday 24th March 2017, 01:37PM
  • Thank you Jane and Paddy

    Unfortunately (in terms of Y-DNA study), Napoleon and Kitty did not have any sons and I have been unable to determine the fate of his two brothers who also immigrated to the U.S..    There was a John Waldron from Finglas who served some time in prison in Dublin for neglecting his wife who is the right age to be Napoleon's brother (see attached).   He was released about a year before our John Waldron made the trip to the U.S. with the Carton's.  I have been in touch with a decendant of that family who self-published a book about their immigration.  It contains letters that have been passed down through the generations describing their journey (which included a shipwreck).   James Carton refers to him in the letters as "his man", which sounds like he was hired help - which seems odd, given that the family clearly had means.   However, if he was a ne'er-do-well, he might have just been skipping town to avoid his wife.  Oral history passed down through my Great Aunt Helen Gilbride (granddaughter of Napolean who was born the year he died, so would have only heard these stories second hand from her mother and aunts) tells us that Napoleon's mother Mary Anne was domineering and that he and Kitty jumped on the boat to New York without telling her they were leaving.   They were supposedly taking a wagon of turnips to sell in the market in town and then used that money help pay for their passage - only sending word back to Rockmount as the ship set sail.    So, John may have simply signed onto the Carton expedition as a carpenter to escape his mother as well.   Regardless, James Carton mentions that John Waldron left the farm in Ottowa IL fairly soon after they arrived and that is the last record we have of him. 

    There was also a will left by John Waldron (Napoleon's father) that apparently did not come to light until after the death of William.   I assume that was probably destroyed in the 1822 fire as well.   It would be helpful to know who actually owned Baleskin in the early 1800s.   If this person lived in England, there could be surviving correspondence between that person and their local agents regarding the tenants.  I have attached some slides I made for interested relatives a while ago that summarize what I know about the Waldrons at Rockmount.   I did find more information on Peter McKenna's family in later census records, but have not followed up on that or located any descendants of that family.

     

    jimbotep

    Saturday 25th March 2017, 01:17PM

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  • You have found a remarkable amount of details on your Waldron relatives!

    This might be your Julia Fitzsimons in 1901:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Coolock/Newtown/...

    You might find more in the birth, marriage and death records which have been freely available online since September last at

    http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced-civil.jsp

    Paddy Waldron

    Saturday 25th March 2017, 06:45PM