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I’m looking for information on a woman named Catherine Connolly, very likely born in Dublin around 1776. Connolly would eventually be her married named but I believe her maiden name was Catherine O’Brian.

Anecdotal information from family members long passed away states that Catherine O’Brian was raised by a man who was not her biological father. I only know his last name: Draper. Is suspect all of this took place in and around Dublin, Ireland but I cannot be entirely sure. This so called Draper was said to have been a wealthy man. I letter written by a family member of mine many years ago refers to him as a “fox hunting squire.” I have what I believe to be a small portrait of his and in the back are the initials “D.D”. I believe this to be “Draper” but I am unsure.

It was said that Catherine O’Brian was actually raised as Draper’s daughter, even though she was not. In her adulthood she was told that Draper was not her true father, which is recollected to be the shock of her life since she adored him. What else happened I do not know.

Catherine O’Brian/Draper went on to marry a man named Charles Connolly, probably in Dublin. They had at least three children, one of which was my great great great grandmother Catherine Connolly, born in April 1808. In her adult life Catherine Connolly married a man named William Rudkin, whose family was originally from County Carlow. William Rudkin attended the University of Dublin where he was a chemist.

William Rudkin, Catherine Connolly and Catherine’s mother Catherine O’Brian/Draper/Connolly immigrated to the United States in the early 1850s. There they established a very successful “essences” business (substances used for flavoring alcohol) at No. 74 William Street in Manhattan, New York. The business was first known as “William Rudkin & Sons” and then later renamed “William Rudkin’s Sons” after William died. The family prospered and eventually settled in Brooklyn, New York at 594 Henry Street.

Catherine O’Brian/Draper/Connolly died in 1866 at 63 West Baltic Street in Brooklyn, New York. Her son in law William Rudkin died in 1873 and his wife Catherine Connolly Rudkin died in 1899.

I am searching for anyone near or far who can give me more information on this family. I have researched them thoroughly in the United States but and particularly interested in discovering who this “Draper” figure was, that is, the man who raised Catherine O’Brian as his own daughter. Catherine O’Brian was said to have been born in Dublin so I guess that Draper may have been from there, but I cannot be sure. Any further information on the Rudkin family and the Connolly family in Ireland would be most welcome. I can be reached her or on ancestry.com where I have a very thorough family tree pertaining to this family.

Many thanks for reading.

Sunday 24th Nov 2013, 01:27AM

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  • Given the "essence" connection ther is only one Rudkin a WILLIAM in the Dublin Directory for 1842

    http://www.failteromhat.com/dublindir1842.htm
    http://www.failteromhat.com/dublin/people/dir53.pdf
    he is a listed as a "druggist" so I would think he is  certainly your 

    https://maps.google.ie/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&layer=c&…

    He must have sold the business to Boyd and Goodwin  who are there in 1862

    It is a restuarant today Ill give thenm a call and take some photos next time Im in dublin if you like.

    http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/109.php

    If he went to the University of Dublin ( trinity college) then he was certainly Church of Ireland - Protestant Ascendency

    ther was a copy7 of book up for sale in 2011 but I can access a copy in the Trinity College Library anyway you will find him in it http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/

    Griffiths valuation published between 1847 and 1864 whows John and Mark rudkin owning sizable lands in Carlow.

    You can search the CoI Church records buirials for Rudkins in Carlow and RC ones for Connollys and Drapers in dublin - that is a job of work in itself http://dublinheritage.ie/graveyards/

    Someone on ansestry.com has identified the shop photo 22_24Aa nd him as

    : William Rudkin (1810-1873) as well as Saint Andrew's Roman Catholic Church where his children were baptised and went to mass. Thisodd as it is a huge Church known later as Daniel O Connolls church wher he went to Mass but O connell got emancipation for Roman Catholics in 1829. It may be rudkin converted or just allowed The children to be brought up Catholic but it is doubtful Trinity College woudl allow Catholics as student chemists in 1800. On the other hand this is  a good thing since many records were burnt in the Civil War shelling of the customs house. But church of Ireland Parish kept seperate records so you might find Rudkkin connolly or Draper in church of Ireland records for baptisms marriages etc. in Cof I files.

    On page 720 of ( a copy of this book was for sale in Trinity in 2011 - they have an annual book sale)

    of Alumni Dublinenses ( I never read it before so bear with me) ther are only TWO Rudkins who probably are related. You find a Thomas Rudkin of Carlow July 9 , 1695 ( the college was only founded in 1692) aged 15 so born circa. 1680 son of Henry ; then "colonus" a designation which I havent figured born co Carlow i think Sch 1697 means he became a scholar in 1697. . Scholars and fellows owned the college - actually legally they still do. there is a name i think of a sponsor or maybe the local Protestant priest who sent "Mr thomas Carlow"

    "Pen." may be "pensioner" most students entered Trinity College, Dublin as "pensioners"; in other words, they paid a fixed sum annually. The other two categories were "sizars" and "fellow commoners" (Socii Comitates)

    There is also William H Rudkin another "pensioner" from Carlow in Jan 30 1846 aged born Carlow aged 32 son of Henry and the designation "centurio" It may be this was his official degree awarded when he was going to The US. Maybe he never turned up for the original ceremony? Mr Stephenson  a sponsor? is also listed

    By the way before people had Ph.D. they were all doctors of divinity ~ D.D.

     

    Friday 24th Jan 2014, 12:32PM
  • maybe you may not understand why I am "surprised" at children of C of I being brought up RC

    Let me explain

    As you are aware the "Draper" father of Ms O Brien Connolly was either a very wealthy Catholic or a Protestant. The "Connolly " who married her could be either but the Rudkin was vertainly not only Protestant but anglican i.e. Church of Ireland/england who actually controlled Ireland.

    The Provost of Trinity college TO THIS DAY has by law (it is an exemption accepted as a carryover from history) to be Anglican. It so hapopoens the last one was Atheist and the one before that was Catholic but that is the first ( and second) time in over 400 years that happened. Trinity College was set up to train Anglican Priests and has that heritage still over 400 years later - actually the Priest training element broke away about six months ago but that is off the point.

    So if William Rudkin went to Trinity he did so under this cultural heritage. Not only that but the Apoticary element -  apothecaries were incorporated as the Guild of St Luke by charter of George II in 1745. The guild continued to exist after the foundation of the Apothecaries Hall until the mid-19th century.

    http://www.rcpi.ie/content/docs/000001/97_5_media.pdf

    now you have to know what might stand out but

    page 5

    AH/1/4

    Roll of the Guild of Saint Luke

    Description:

    Long parchment sheets containing the text of the oaths

    to be taken by different members of the guild, including

    the Freemen's Oath, Master and Wardens Oath of Office,

    Clerks Oath, Oath of Allegiance, Oath of Supremacy,

    Oath of Fidelity and Abjuration, Oath of Assistants and

    Decelaration against Transubstantiation. Roll then

    contains the signatures of freemen admitted since 30

    September 1795.

     

    [end excerpt]

    Now consider Catholics not being allowed to be Freemen of Dublin

    An Oath of the Monarch being supreme ( I assume) defender of the faith as opposed to the pope.

    And oath of allegiance to the Crown.

    The Declaration against Transsubstiantion as ofpposed to the Anglican "Consubstantiation"

    now all the above ( which are still echoed in the twentieth century e.g. "Home Rule not Rome Rule " and even right up to today.

    Put this with the secession of the US in 1777 the rebellions in Ireland of 1798 and 1803 and the ongoing war with Napoleonic Catholic France you have a culture wher the ascendence is very resistany to even talking to Catholics let alone marrying them or having kids bof your baptised by them. Ironically my own son was baptised in Trinity College and that is probably rare or unique . I dont know of one in the 21st century and we are 14 per cent in. It would take a stunning woman ( in looks or in charachter) to get a man from the ascendency to turn from this especially given her mother was from "no breeding" as they might view it.

    YOUR family research is the type of story that that make books and movies out of. If you are coming to Ireland please contact me about contributing to writing a book or movie script. I know people take licence with the truth but given the obvious cultural background if you fill in the blanks this is a ripping yarn.  

     

    Friday 24th Jan 2014, 09:15PM
  • Hello there! Thanks so much for your two posts. I need to read them again in detail to fully absorb interesting content. This Draper figure is someone I'd like to learn more about. I have what I'm told is a small miniature painting of him. It is really very detailed and almost looks like a photograph. It's in a very elegant gold case as well. Someone recently pointed out to me that in the photo the man is wearing something called a "Surtout", which I believe is maybe something that British soldiers might have worn. Could Draper possibly been British? I'm attaching a photo of the front and back of this. Let me know if this adds anything to the mix.

    Friday 24th Jan 2014, 09:56PM
  • Trinity College has a map library .

    http://www.tcd.ie/Library/map-library/

    I could take a look at contemporary maps .

    Two other good sources are

    http://www.nli.ie/en/intro/what-we-have.aspx

    and

    http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/libraries/Heritage%20and%20History/Collections/Pages/index.aspx

    and

    http://www.dublincity.ie/RecreationandCulture/libraries/Heritage%20and%…

    http://www.logainm.ie/eolas/Data/IHTA/dublin-2.pdf

    mentions page 17 that Merrion Row

    was “Unnamed 1728 (Brooking). Road to Balls Bridge 1756 (Rocque).”

     

    TCD Map Library and some maps of the day might therefore be of interest

     

    Guild Records 1192 – 1841 for Draper might also be of interest

    I did come across a Mark Rudkin probably a cousin or brother of William

    The Adventures of Captain John Patterson: With Notices of the Officers, &c. of the 50th, Or Queen's Own Regiment, from 1807 to 1821 (Google eBook)

    Page 42

    Also from Carlow a Lieutenant in the Peninsular wars wounded promoted to Captain wounded again captured in action and retired on half pay two years later ( half pay was a sort of pension, many got nothing when they left the army so it shows success) and he served in the 50th foot under another famous Irishman Arthur Wellesley who people later thought was English and refer to as the Duke of Wellington. Can’t find the source of that but had it yesterday. It is a written account by another officer mentioning the two battles.  Wellesley is replaced for the second battle by another General and it also accounts their landing on the peninsula.

    Saturday 25th Jan 2014, 12:40PM
  • To address you direct issue what you need is Catherine Connolly senior's marriage  - the one who married Charles connolly cert listing the father's name the maiden name and the date. the father might then be listed as her real father or Draper might be listed as the father a first name or county origin or trade of "draper" be listed. Do you know  a date or Church for this wedding? 

    Saturday 25th Jan 2014, 01:21PM
  • Baptism of CATHE CONOLLY of N/R

    on 1 May 1808

    Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL

    Area - DUBLIN (RC)

    possiblyy the daughter as the father is charles and mother catherine

    on 9 June 1805 there is a marriage of Henry draper and Elanor connolly the husbands father is listed as Draper and the wife as connolly. Maybe Draper had a son and married his adopted daughter into the same family?

    Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. ANDREW

    Area - DUBLIN (RC)

    there are seven people called draper in the 1801 directory ? the source says 1801 but it may be 1861

    Wilson's Dublin Directory - 1801, Thoms directory 1861 but ther is  no merrion row listed in the 1801 directory.

    [http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/directories/dubdir/doy-du…

    there is also a connolly draper's in 57 marlburough street

    http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/directories/dubdir/con-co…]

    there is a catherine connolly married in

    on N/R July 1805

    Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MICHAN

    Area - DUBLIN (RC)

    the witness is listed as Byrne no father or mothers name or husbands name.

    source: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.iesearching the first 1500 "Connolly" records in the 1800s

    Sunday 26th Jan 2014, 06:19AM
  • Wow this record is great. I visited Catherine Connolly rudkins grave in Brooklyn New York a few months ago and it stated she was born in April 1808.  There was no day of the month listed. I know she had siblings as we'll and even found a Connolly as one of the baptismal witnesses to one if her children. Did you find any other children born around that time with similar parents?  I think Catharine Connolly Ruskin was the second or third child born to that family. This is great information. I'll email you more tomorrow as it's pretty late here in the USA right now. Thanks for sending this!

    Sunday 26th Jan 2014, 06:57AM
  • Congregation - ST. MICHAN

    Marriage of ? ? of N/R and CATHERINE CONOLLY of N/R on N/R July 1805

    Priest R BROWNE

    Witness ? BYRNE

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/st.michans_mf_1850-1869_ma…

     

    Probable baptism cathe junior

    ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL

    Baptism of CATHE CONOLLY of N/R on 1 May 1808

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_…

    second entry on right page

    Sponsor 1JNO CONOLLYSponsor 2BRIDGT COGHLAN

     

    Monday 27th Jan 2014, 06:08PM
  • Im assuming the cousin/brother mark Rudkin after his Peninsular Wars experience and silversmithing in carlow ( emigrated about 20 years earlier than Willaim but provides this interesting story of the last ever "gentlemens" duel in Canada It reads like a passage from a drama.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Rudkin

    I was in Mhuine Beag (Bagnelstown) last year on a cricket pitch~ relics of old decency

    http://www.bagenalstownparish.ie/our-parish/parish-history/st-lazerian%…

    "In 1868, John Rudkin, Conies, established the Rudkin Christmas Charity for the parish of Lorum."

    read the later section in that refernce on Killcumney and you might get a feel of the level of unrest in 1798 It isnt often you get priests leading armies.

    One Irony is today ther is a statue to Wolfe Tone about 100 yards from Rudkins old Shop in 6 Merrion row

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Rebellion_of_1798

    The more I loo the more I see a great story

    \http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfe_Tone#Legacy

    another parallel with mark Rudkin

    William Theobald Wolfe Tone (1791–1828), who was educated by the French government and served with some distinction in the armies of Napoleon, emigrating after Waterloo to America, where he died, in New York City, on 10 October 1828 at the age of 37. His mother, Matilda (or Mathilda) Tone also emigrated to the United States, and she is buried in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn, New York.

    Tuesday 28th Jan 2014, 04:00AM
  • the Alumni Dublensis references for the Rudkins  I think "colonus" is a farmer and the Mr thomas is the local teacher as there is usually a reference for the school or teacher. Centurio =officer

    http://www.oxfordhistory.org.uk/mayors/government/1_privilegiatus_trade…

     

     

    Tuesday 28th Jan 2014, 06:29PM
  • Heres something worth buying

    http://www.ria.ie/Research/IHTA/Publications/John-Rocque-s-Map-of-Dublin-(1756)

    I think i have Catherine junior daughter another catherine loouisa baptism in 1840

     

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a541270187…

    The sponsor robert ruth married or did he ? since it might be odd he was a sponsir of an RC baptism but married in CofI since the Sponsor AFAIK would raise the child RC if they were baptised there.Maybe Robert and William continued officially  as CoI  William started going to an RC Church and they agreed the children would be raised RC . I note the father of Robert Henry is listed as Army Captain.

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/48fa7e0547…

    NB THis is Church of Ireland not RC

    the address 2 Westland row shows up in the dublin directory as a druggist when william was at 6 merrion row

    Willaim and Caherine had a child baptised  robert edward

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/345fea0009…

    this is 1843!

     

    Wednesday 29th Jan 2014, 08:46PM
  • Robert Roth Rudkin is an interesting figure. I know a little about him from my research in the United States. He eventually came to New York City. He volunteered as a soldier in the United States civil war under the alias "John Butler." I have no idea why he did this. Once I learned this from examing his widows pension I went back and looked at old records. It looked like he listed him self as John Butler when he was the baptismal sponsor for George Washington Rudkin, youngest son of William Rudkin and Catherine Connolly (and their only child to be born in the United States). This is a big mystery.

    Robert Roth Rudkin/John Butler and Ellen Bond had children Henry and Sophia. Sophia died young but Henry lived to be an adult and eventually moved to New Orleans, which is also quite unusual. One of my relatives was able to trace their descendents almost to current day. Robert Roth Rudkin/John Butler died of dysentery during the civil war in 1864 and his widow Ellen Bond Rudkin died in 1887. Interestingly her death certificate lists her name as Ellen Rudkin, not Ellen Bond or Ellen Butler. The alias of Robert Roth Rudkin as John Butler is quite unusual. I wonder if he fled Ireland for some crime or unpaid debt. It seems very strange and I can't find any significant of the name John Butler otherwise.

    The reason I know he assumed the alias is because after he died Ellen Bond Rudkin applied for a widows pension. She had to submit multiple documents showing that she was the true wife of him. Also included with this was a hand written letter from my ancestor William Rudkin stating that John Butler was infact Robert Roth Rudkin.

    Wednesday 29th Jan 2014, 10:37PM
  • Heres another Robert -but RC -and has a William and Catherine as parents so im thinking these Catherine and Robert  are children of a William Henry Rudkin and catherine married in 1836 and sponsored by the another Robert Rudkin.

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/8382d80183…

    DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - RATHMINES

    Baptism of ROBERTUS EDVARDUS RUDKIN of N/R on 6 August 1843

    NameROBERTUS EDVARDUS RUDKIN Date of BirthN/R N/R N/RAddressN/R

    FatherGULIELMI RUDKIN

    MotherCATHARINAE CONNOLLY

    Further details in the record

    Sponsor 1RICARDO WILLIS

    Sponsor 2CATHERINA CONNOLLYSponsor 3ELIZA STEELE

    PriestNICOLAO ROCHE VICARIO

    Thursday 30th Jan 2014, 11:45PM
  • KCwelch,

    I may have found an interesting connection to your old inquiry. It isn't much though. It consists of an actual botanical sample from the "Miss Wm Rudkins & Son"  business that your family owned. The address is listed as 74 William St, New York.

    I can give you more information and photos if you like. If you want, email me at ljones at nybg dot org. I am in NYC.

    Lance

    Monday 5th Oct 2015, 07:51PM

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