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Please, I am trying to find information about Frances McDonald who married James Flavelle in a Dublin Registry office in 1851. She died in 1854 aged 20 years and is buried in Glasnevin cemetery. Her father was Mathew McDonald on the marriage information. Thank you.  Merrilyn Schlipalius


Saturday 13th Aug 2022, 05:43AM

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  • I think I may have seen this query before – the residences for the bride & groom are very familiar..

    Link to the 1851 marriage for reference - Residence for the bride is noted as 9 Lower Sheriff Street, her father Mathew’s occupation is Carpenter & Builder, the groom is a commercial clerk, residences at time of marriage 7 Lower Sheriff Street, his father is James a Farmer.  The witnesses don’t appear to be closely related – Bernard Goulding and Margaret Dunne. Both the bride and groom are noted as full age, i.e. 21 or over, and it’s first marriage for both. Unfortunately since the marriage took place in a Dublin North City registry office there are no clues as to religious denominations.

    Since Frances would have been born well before the start of civil records in 1864, a search of baptisms would be required, but it’s difficult to start without some further clues such as place of birth and religious denomination or maybe details of some sibling to follow up on…

    Did the couple have any children that you know of before 1854 ?

    A check of the Dublin city baptism records on the free IrishGenealogy website does not show any promising matches for a baptism for Frances, the website has records for most of the  Catholic and Church of Ireland parishes in Dublin city.  A wider search of Catholic records around Ireland does not show anything promising either – possibly your McDonald family were some Protestant denomination – e.g. Church of Ireland, Presbyterian etc…  records for the other denominations are not as well represented online so a little more difficult to research without have a parish name to verify what details might be available

    One record that came even close in a search was of a child baptised at St. Michan’s RC, in 1832 – almost certainly a Male ‘Franciscum Mc Donald’, but would also have been just 19 at the time of that marriage in 1851

    Mathew seems to have done quite well for himself, as he’s listed in various Dublin city directories – a regular Carpenter would not usually be listed, so it looks like he headed up a business probably employing others. Some transcripts from directories below for several possible addresses for Mathew’s business and residence :

    Mathew McDonnell, Timber merch., builder etc, 82 Church Street (1822 Wilson's Directory/Treble Almanac)
    Matthew McDonald, carpenter and builder 111 Lower Mecklenburgh Street (Post Office directory 1843)
    Matthew McDonald, carpenter, 4 Sheriff Street  (Slater’s 1846)
    Matthew McDonald, carpenter builder and vintner, 4 Lower Sheriff Street  (Thom’s 1848)
    Matthew McDonald, carpenter builder and vintner, 8 and 9 Sheriff Street  (Thom’s 1858)

    all Dublin City

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 15th Aug 2022, 02:33PM
  • Thank you Shane for all this information. I have found France's death notice of 16-01-1854 (Glasnevin  Record Number BGLX07090) and her age was 20 years so maybe that's why she was married in the Registry Office (not being full age as stated or is there a possibility that the age at death is incorrect?)

    Thanks again 



    Tuesday 30th Aug 2022, 09:41AM

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