My great grandfather was Patrick Michael King. He was christened in Ballintemple, Castlegar, Galway, Ireland, in 1868. His brother Charles was as well in 1870. They emigrated together to America in 1888. Their other siblings were Margaret 1866, Michael 1872, John 1874, Martin 1876, and Edward 1880. Their parents were Michael King and Cathern/Catherine Sabina Whyte/White. Michael and Catherine Sabina were married in Ballintemple on 17 June 1865. I am looking for their birth and death dates and their parents and information on the children who didn't emigrate.
Thursday 11th May 2017, 01:57AM
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Megan:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
Full civil registration started in Ireland in 1864 so you would assume there would be a civil marriage record for the 1865 marriage, however, I was not able to find a record and I looked on three different data bases. So no civil marriage which is unfortunate since fathers names for the bride and groom are shown on civil marriage records.
I know that as of 1880 that they were still in Ballintemple which is in Oranmore ciivl parish. The family is not in Ballintemple townland in the 1901 census and is not in any of the townlands within the Ballintemple district electoral division.
I also could not find a 1901 census record for a Martin King or Edward King that matches their year of birth.
I also looked at the civil death records from 1891 on for Michael and Catherine and did not see a possible record.
So did this family also emigrate to either America or England?
Any other family clues?
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hello Roger,
Thank you for your reply and your research. I hadn't even looked for the census records yet and I didn't know about the civil dates but that's too bad a record wasn't located. As far as I know, no other family members emigrated. While Patrick and Charles arrived in Boston together, Patrick eventually settled in the state of Indiana where many others from Galway were (I've still got to figure out a Long family as well!), Charles moved to Chicago, Illinois and married and raised his family. I have pictures of the sister-in-laws together on the farm in Indiana, but no other family members. I only know the priest in Indiana wrote the priest in Castlegar for birth information on Patrick, but that was the only clue I had that he came from there until more recently when records began appearing online. I am fairly new to Irish research, but I am learning!
I am learning to use the irishgenealogy.ie site - any other suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
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Megan:
Use the 1901 and 1911 census site and maybe you will have better luck than me. http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
There are also subscription sites like Roots Ireland and Find My Past and of course, Ancestry.com
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Greetings from Derbyshire in England. I have just returned from a “once in a lifetime” family reunion in Tracton near Cork and have met eleven new Irish cousins that I previously did not know existed. Enormous help came from Ireland XO and from historians associated with the Tracton Community and Arts Centre. I was seeking genealogical information about my grandmother’s maternal grandparents Maurice Drinan and Ellen (Foley) Drinan and we now possess a wealth of family history about them.
Our attention is turning towards my grandmother’s paternal grandparents. Via RootsIreland.ie we have discovered a church marriage record showing that on 11 October 1850 in Castlegar, County Galway Patrick King (c1815-1880) of Renmore married Honor Burke (also known as Hannah or Nora) (c1827-1896). The witnesses were Michael Burke and Mary Melody. So far this is all that we confidently know of Patrick and Honor/Hannah/Nora. Later, they emigrated to America.
Patrick may have been born around 1815, might have arrived in New York via Liverpool on 7 July 1851 at age 36 and he probably died in Braintree, Massachusetts in 1880. Hannah/Honor/Nora might have been born around 1827, died in Braintree, Massachusetts and was buried in Portsmouth. Rockingham, New Hampshire on 13 May 1896. They definitely had one son Michael Francis King (my great grandfather) who was born in 1956 in Brocton, Massachusetts and who died in 1939. Michael’s siblings (according to US Census data) were John, Mary, James, Patrick, Margaret, Ellen and William.
Patrick’s parents (possibly from County Galway) may have been James and Anne King. Hannah/Honor/Nora’s parents were Patrick and Nora Burk according to her American death certificate.
Do any Ireland XO members know where I might find other trusted genealogical evidence concerning the parents of Patrick and Honor/Hannah/Nora, birthdates, birthplaces, siblings, emigration, etc. all based upon records in Ireland? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am also affiliated with these online genealogical organisations: MyHeritage, GENi, Ancestry.com, FamilySearch, BillionGraves, Findmypast, Ireland XO, Rootsireland.ie, 23andMe and FTDNA.
I would be happy to share what I have accumulated with others.
Have I posted this query to the correct Message Board?
My email address: michael.pomerantz44@gmail.com
Yours sincerely,
Michael Pomerantz
Michael Pomerantz
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Hi Michael,
You post was attached to the end of mine about my family. It would be better if you posted it on the main message board where the administrator will see it along with others. Then you can title it with your family names. Happy hunting and good luck! (And your trip sounded fabulous!)
Megan
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Dear Megan,
Greetings from England. We have exchanged genealogy messages previously.
Yesterday, I received an unexpected email from a Michael King who lives near Balintemple...presumably near Cork where I have other Irish ancestry. His grandparents were Pat and Mary King...also from Balintemple. I have replied to ask if he is the same Michael King who is a DNA matched cousin to me at FTDNA.
On 11 May 2017 you posted a message on this site and you mentioned a Patrick Michael King associated with Ballintemple in Castlegar, Galway.
Does anything here make sense to you? Since I wrote to Ireland XO in 2017 I have learned a lot via DNA research but my Irish ancestry is still very much under-researched.
In advance thanks for any light you can shed on this.
Michael Pomerantz