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Mary Cullinane

Hello

 

Searching for any informatin on Mary from Lydican, Claregalway.....born 27th March 1852 and married Michael Carroll and then moved to the Clonbrook Estate.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Regards

Sam

Sam Cullen

Monday 28th March 2016, 09:19PM

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  • Hi Sam

    There are 2 birth/baptism records of Mary Cullinane from Claregalway on rootsireland but they are 1861 & 62:

    Name:Mary CullinanDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:03-Sep-1862Address:GortParish/District:CLAREGALWAYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Galway
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:William CullinanMother:Mary QualterOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:James GlynnSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Glynn

    Name:Mary CullinanDate of Birth:

    Date of Baptism:08-Dec-1861Address:WaterdaleParish/District:CLAREGALWAYGender:FemaleCountyCo. Galway
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas CullinanMother:Catherine KeanyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Martin CroweSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Eleanor Qualter

    Here's the marriage record which I assume you have which of course doesn't have her father's name! However it has he married in 1852 rather than born then??

    Date of Marriage:27-Mar-1852
    Parish / District:CLAREGALWAY
    County:Co. Galway
    Husband
    WifeName:MichaelCarrole
    MaryCullinanAddress:Not Recorded
    LydicanDenomination:Roman Catholic
    Roman CatholicOccupation:
    Witness 1
    Witness 2Name:MichaelLenahan
    BridgetWalshAddress:

    Notes:

    STP: £1/2/-
    "FALLAN" AND ALSO "FALLON" ARE WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF THE CARD.

    Griffiths Valuation (free) was done in 1855 in Galway and there are 4 Cullinanes in Claregalway but only this one from Lydacan: 

    Family Name 1CULLINANEForename 1CATHERINELandlordFamily Name 2LYNCHForename 2ANDREW H.PrefixREPLocationCountyGALWAYBaronyDUNKELLINUnionGALWAYParishCLAREGALWAYTownlandLYDACANPlace NameLYDACANPlace TypeTOWNLANDPublication DetailsPosition on Page47Printing Date1855Act15&16Sheet Number83Map Reference2

    Interestingly the 1861 baptism of Mary Cullinane 1861 has mother Catherine

    Frustratingly the Irish Censuses of 1841 & 51 do not include Galway; the 1821 does but there are no Cullinanes in Galway

    This is the most likely listing from the 1901 Census

    CarrollMichael63MaleHead of FamilyRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherdRead and writeIrish and EnglishMarried-CarrollMary60FemaleWifeRoman CatholicCo Galway-Read and writeIrish and EnglishMarried-CarrollPatrick27MaleSonRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds SonRead and write-Not Married-CarrollThomas26MaleSonRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds SonRead and write-Not Married-CarrollJulia28FemaleDaughterRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds DaughterRead and write-Not Married-CarrollDelia5FemaleGrand DaughterRoman Catholic

    I couldn't see them in the 1911 however

    This record is from the Tithe Applotments 1823-37

    CullinaneThos Cloughagatla Aughrim Galway1826

    I'm wondering if Cloughagatla has anything to do with Claregalway; I'll ask a Galway expert

    Col

    ColCaff

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 05:42AM
  • Col-Cloughagalla iis about 30 miles East of Claregalway,close to Aughrim though.-Liam Irwin

    Liam Irwin

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 03:40PM
  • SAM-Familysearch has 4 Carrolls born to these parents 1870-1874 Patrick,James,Ellen&Thomas-Clonbrock-.Liam Irwin

    Liam Irwin

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 03:59PM
  • John Carroll,Born mountbellew 1864-same parents. L Irwin

    Liam Irwin

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 04:10PM
  •  

    Hello

     

    Thank you for your responces, 

    There seems to be a few Carrolls in the Clonbrook Estate.  Michael Carroll who married a Mary and A john Carroll whose brother Michael and Patrick live in the same household, and John married  a Catherine., all so confusing.  Their childrens names were also similar to those of Michael and Mary.    Michael and Mary married on the 27th march 1852, in Lydecan Church. 

    The baptisms you have thoughtfullly given do not add, as they are in 1861 and 1862, unfortunately. 

    The below are my Carrolls.  Maybe Mary did not know the name of her father? 

    Do you know the name of the catholic chruch in the Lydican?

     

    CarrollMichael63MaleHead of FamilyRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherdRead and writeIrish and EnglishMarried-CarrollMary60FemaleWifeRoman CatholicCo Galway-Read and writeIrish and EnglishMarried

    CarrollPatrick27MaleSonRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds SonRead and write-Not Married-CarrollThomas26MaleSonRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds SonRead and write-Not Married-CarrollJulia28FemaleDaughterRoman CatholicCo GalwayShepherds DaughterRead and write-Not Married-CarrollDelia5FemaleGrand DaughterRoman CatholicCo GalwayScholarRead only-Not Married-ManningIsabella13FemaleGrand DaughterRoman Catholic

     

    Regards

     

    Sam

    Sam Cullen

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 06:58PM
  • Aplogies, she would have been born around 1841.............

    Sam Cullen

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 07:00PM
  • Okay, thinking about it again, if she married Michael in 1852, she would not have been born in 1840.........

    Sam Cullen

    Tuesday 29th March 2016, 07:45PM
  • Thanks Liam.

    Sam the nli RC registers are free online & have baptisms, marriages & mortuary records for Claregalway starting 1849.

    I notice that the date on the marriage record is exactly the same as the birth date for Mary that you had so could there have been an error somewhere? If so this would make her birth year abt 1830-34.

    Rootsireland has quite a few Mary Cullinanes born in those years but none from Claregalway. There are quite a few from Tuam. Could these be relevant Liam?

    Col

    ColCaff

    Wednesday 30th March 2016, 04:11AM
  • Thank you Colcaff. I have spoken with a family member, and although we know Mary Cullinane was married in Lydicam, it may not be her birth place, therefore the Tuam Cullinane family may be relative. I agree , her birth dates would be around 1834, her mother 's name was beleived to be Catherine, who is thought to have died in the 1850''s. Is there indexing of the Irish marriages/births that are free, as I find the registers very hard to read?

    Thank you again for all of your support.

    Regards Sam

    samanthacullen

    Saturday 2nd April 2016, 07:33AM
  • No free ones as far as I know Sam; you might consider a short subscription to www.rootsireland.ie/

    findmypast.ie/ might also be worth a try; do you have a local Family History or Genealogy Centre which may offer free access to these after joining?

    Col

    ColCaff

    Sunday 3rd April 2016, 06:50AM
  • Sam,

    The Michael Carroll, who married Mary Cullinane was, according to some Carrolls I met in Mt. Bellew many decades ago, a son of Edward Carroll.  If he was the son of Edward Carroll and Bridget Mulrooney, then he would have been my grt grandfather's brother, and had another brother Thomas and a sister Margaret.

    I have no more information on Mary Cullinane other than marriage, 1901 census, and death.

    But if you wish to try to see if there is a connexion between your Michael Carroll and my grt. grandfather, please contact me.

    Jack Carroll <jcarroll126@hotmail.co.uk>

     

     

    JECarroll

    Tuesday 13th December 2016, 09:35PM