We are looking for information on Irish ancestors. Our James Collins was convicted in Galway 1847 and was transported to New South Wales in Australia in1849 on the Havering. He stole two shirts in the company of Martin Devine both aged 16 years. Both were transported for 7 years.
James parents were James Collins and Mary Mallany or Mallanery.
We have not found any records in Galway relating to this family nor do we know where they came from in Galway. James Collins marriage and death certificate say he came from Galway.
James married Margaret Ryan from Tipperary in Sydney NSW in 1858 and had 10 children who survived him when he died in 1895. My great grandfather was his third child, John Collins. Both Margaret and James were illiterate.
Annette Collins
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CONVICTS: (AUSTRALIA)Transportation from Ireland for crimes committed in Ireland, lasted from 1791 to1853, ending 15 years earlier than transportation from England. The records of the Chief Secretary'sOffice, which had responsibility for the Penal system, are the major Irish source of information ontransportees. Not all of the relevant records have survived, particularly for the period before 1836,but what does exist can provide a wealth of information. The records were formerly housed in theState Paper Office in Dublin Castle, which is now part of the National Archives of Ireland (NAI). Theprincipal classes of relevant records are as follows: Prisoners' Petitions and Cases, 1788-1836: these consist of petitions to the Lord Lieutenant forcommutation or remission of sentence, and record the crime, trial, sentence, place of origin andfamily circumstances. State Prisoners' Petitions: these specifically concern those arrested for participation in the 1798rebellion, and record the same information as the main series of petitions. Convict Reference Files, from 1836: these continue the earlier petitions series and can include awide range of additional material. Transportation Registers, from 1836: these record all the names of those sentenced to death ortransportation, giving the name of the transport ship or the place of detention, are sometimes givenas well. Male Convict Register, 1842-1847: in addition to the information supplied by the TransportationRegisters, this volume also gives physical descriptions of the convicts. Register of Convicts on Convict Ships, 1851-1853: this gives the names, dates and counties of trial ofthose transported to Van Dieman's land and Western Australia for the period covered. Free Settlers' Papers, 1828-1852: after serving a minimum of four years, male convicts had the rightto request a free passage for their wife and family to join them. The Papers contain lists of thosemaking such a request, along with transportation details and the names and addresses of the wives.A number of petitions from husbands and wives, and prisoners' letters, are also included. These records were microfilmed and a database was presented to the Australian government andcan now be found in many State archives. The NAI retains copies and the database, in particular, cansave a great deal of time and effort. www.nationalarchives.ie Early convict arrivals records, makingup some of the gaps in the NAI material, are also online at www.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/convicts.htm(Irish Convicts to Australia 1791-1815). RIC/GARDA RECORDS:Excellent personnel records were kept from 1816. These can be found at the UK National Archives here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ HO 184. There aremicrofilm copies at the National Archives of Ireland, The Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) and thePublic Records Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI). For each recruit it includes a brief service record,date of marriage and wife's native county, and the name of the individual who recommendedhim. This is important to identify an exact place of origin, because the recommendations usuallycame from local clergymen or magistrates who knew the recruit personally. There is a book by JimHerlihy called, The Royal Irish Constabulary: a complete alphabetical list of officers and men, 1816-1922, 1999. This supplies the Service Number needed to use the Registers quickly and easily. Alsoworth checking at the UK National Archives is PMG 48: 'Pensions and allowances to officers, menand staff of the Royal Irish Constabulary and to their widows and children'. This dates from the1870s and usually gives the address of the recipient. The Dublin Metropolitan Police Register is heldby the Garda Archives at Dublin Castle, but is more readily available on microfilm at the National The next thing you could do is find the counties and places in Ireland your family names are mostprevalent. Look at the website http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/ and perhapssomething will match some other clue you may have found elsewhere? If nothing turnsup ? it is advisable to try different variations of the spellings of the names. If you have a possiblefirst name you could try the Irish Census 1901, 1911 at www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ or the landvaluation record called Griffiths Valuationhttp://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml