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James Flynn born 1815/6 in Kilogoola, Moycullen (Galway) and Bridget Walsh 1817 Glinsk/Kilbegnet (Galway)

James Flynn 1815/6 of Moycullen (Galway) - son of Michael Flynn c1789 believed of Galway & Mary Reilly c1790 ditto - first married Maria Conway (1817-1841) of Glinsk/Kilbegnet (Galway) and married there 14 May1840. It thought she died giving birth to son Festus Flynn in 1841.  (Festus (aka Festy).

James then married Bridget Walsh - daughter of Thomas Walsh c1792  of Gort/Loughrea & Mary Winter(?) ditto   Bridget born Glinsk/Kilbegnet) and married in the same parish 24 Jul 1842. Children born: Bridget Flynn 1844 (my Great Grandmother); John Flynn 1848 & Mary Flynn (1851).

The 1851 Irish Census shows Festy, Bridget & John as part of James & Bridget's family (Mary not shown but may have been born after Census date).   

James and Bridget, with daughters Bridget & Mary and son John left Ireland in the early or mid part of the 1850's and settled in Birmingham, England.   I have not been able to trace Festy either remaining in Ireland, emigrating to Britain, or perhaps America.

Daughter Bridget Flynn now in Birmingham, England married Henry Francis Westbury in 1879 (3 children including my Grandmother Mary Ann Westbury), John also in Birmingham married Louisa Maber (10 children of whom 8 survived to adulthood & married); Mary sadly died aged about 18 in Birmingham.

Anyone who recognises any of those born Ireland, or possible family connections, or can furnish more information on Festus (Festy) or has detail of the parishes shown will they please make contact.  Thank you

 

Bob Spiers

 

Noodlesathome

Monday 8th May 2017, 02:01PM

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  • Bob:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out and apologies for the delay in responding to your message.

    You mention the 1851 Irish census and I assume you have an 1851 census search form from the Old Age Pension process? It might help to list the townland and parish where they lived.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Thursday 1st June 2017, 04:36PM
  • Yes I believe that is correct .   My Census information is via FMP 'Census search forms 1841/1851 Transcription' .   The FMP Transcription information records both 1841 & 1851 whilst the original image information clearly shows it as an extract from the 1851 Census. The OAP information obviously comes via the notations which shown the information was checked in 1920.

     

    The Applicant was Bridget Flynn (Walsh) married to James Flynn (James was a Tailor).

    Apart from James & Bridget the 1851 information includes: Children: Bridget 6, John 3, Mary - (no age shown but likely newborn); and Festy 10 (who I believe was from James first marriage to Maria Conway, and was being brought up by James' new wife Bridget)

     

    Here is the location information from 1851,

     

    Townland : Derryhippo;

    Parish : Kilbegnet;

    Barony:  Ballymoe

    County:  Galway.

     

     

    Noodlesathome

    Saturday 3rd June 2017, 10:44AM
  • John was not shown in the 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of househld listing for Kilbegnet parish so perhaps they left before 1855 as indicated in your note. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/kilbegnet.php

    Have you considered autosomal DNA testing?

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Saturday 3rd June 2017, 07:52PM
  • Thanks Roger for the information and I have been unable to find anything in Griffiths Valuation myself.   As for autosomal DNA a bit of a sore subject which will explain.  I blog on a Genealogical (English) web site and am down as a big doubter of DNA testing, at least in its present state.   I am forever reading other posts about how they dislike Ancestry results on ethnicity and so retest with Living DNA which may or may not be better and they go with what suits.   

    The most amusing of late is reading of those told they have (e.g.) 36% Irish blood and they cannot find as Genealogical researchers even a trace of Irishness.  Apparently this is a common theme being told they have Irish ethnicity which they challenge.  (I think it is down to too wide a geographical spread myself combining parts of Scotland and England).

     Even though I KNOW I have an Irish connection on my paternal side I tend to want to stay away from DNA testing, although it's at the back of my mind for consideration, even as an admitted skeptic, so things could change.   Will give it some thought but would be interested to know what you think autosomal testing might reveal if you have time.     Thanks anyway    Bob

    Noodlesathome

    Monday 5th June 2017, 08:49AM
  • Bob:

    Ethnicity percentages are not an issue for me since three of my four grandparents were born in Ireland and it was one generation further back for my Brennans/McFaddens.

    I've tested with two companies (and my wife also) and thru the matches have been able to break down some walls to go back one further generation. It also takes patience and you can't get too frustrated when people do not respond to your e-mails about possible connections.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Monday 5th June 2017, 05:08PM
  • Thanks Roger and am currently discussing DNA research with others as the breaking down of 'brick walls' or extending back generations seems to be the prime reason, and ethnicity the least.   Your last remark about people not responding has been echoed by others and causes the same frustrations.

    Bob

     

    Noodlesathome

    Wednesday 7th June 2017, 01:06PM
  • Hi Bob,

    The local Parish Priest of the time in Moycullen carried out a census of men in the village between 1793 and 1813.  You can check it out on our local historical society website http://moycullen.galwaycommunityheritage.org/content/topics/blake-census...

    There is Denis, Jno., Patt and Michael Flyn(n) mentioned but no James.  The Michael mentioned could have been James' father as according to Fr. Blake's census, he was married in 1794 which would fit with James being born in early 1800s.  This Michael Flynn lived in Kylebroughlan townland.

    Regards,

    Hazel Morrison
    (Moycullen Historical Society)

     

      

     

    hmorrison

    Thursday 17th August 2017, 03:23PM
  • Thank you Hazel, that is very useful information and I am fairly cetain that the date I provided for Michael -which was never more than an estimate, and I did not have a marriage year - tallies with the fact James was born c 1816 so outside the Parish Priest Cenus criteria of 1793 - 1813.

    I find Irish research is accumulating information over time to build up a picture, and you have aided me in this and I also now have a Townland to add into my information and useful Census information for other Townlands with the link provided.

    So again a big thank you for your helpful information.

     

    Bob

    Noodlesathome

    Saturday 19th August 2017, 10:38AM