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 Hello!

My family emigrated from Blennerville to New York City in 1851 aboard the ship Miami. According to family lore, it was their honeymoon trip - and their mother-in-law/aunt joined them. I can't seem to find details about the family that was left behind. Perhaps you have ideas/leads/suggestions. 

Groom: Robert Gage b. ~ 1823 - parents: Robert Gage, Sailor; Mary Oliver

Marriage date: 27 August 1851 - St. Anna's Church, Blennerville, Kerry, Ireland

Bride: Anne Naughten b. ~ 1829 - parents: John Naughten, Cooper, Ellen Oliver

Here's what I wonder:

What could I find about the Oliver sisters, Mary and Ellen. I believe they had a brother, Robert aka Robin who might have come to America with Mary and her son, Robert, and her daughter-in-law/niece, Anne. Where was the Oliver family from? What is the name of their parents?

Where did the Gage family come from? 

What more can I learn about the Naughtens? If Ellen Oliver Naughten stayed in Ireland, what became of her family?

Were all the families actually from Blennerville? How did Robert Gage and Anne Naughten meet?

Many thanks,
Amy

Washington state, USA

AmyLB

Thursday 25th Oct 2012, 04:56AM

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  • Hi Amy, I was asked to look at unanswered queries and I think I see the same query back in 2012 so fair play for persistence, the reason it is not answered I think is there is no online record of the marriage in Kerry, this is not unusual as at that remove we mainly rely on church records, over 40% of the Church of Ireland (Anglican) records were lost in hte Civil War of 1922/23 (a shell hit the Public Records Office, often referred to as a fire) some bright spark thought it was a good place for a munitions store. If they were another religion as in say Methodist or Baptist etc there may be hard copy records in the churchs keeping somewhere.

    I can be fairly confident that there is no Gage family in the area in times past, however a search of Roots Ireland shows a lot of Olivers in Limerick, this adjoins Kerry to the south of Limerick and I see in McLysaghts Surnames of Ireland that a different Oliver and best known family settled in Limerick from England in the 17th century, there is a subscription site here where it is free to search Surname location, there are a lot of Olivers in the Ulster area but are separate from the well know family in County Limerick so that I think is the brides family.

    This leads me to think the marriage may have been arranged or maybe as a sailor he just rocked up in Kerry, the name Gage is found mainly in what is now Northern Ireland and in particular Derry or Londonderry depending on your point of view. Gage does not turn up in the book I have as a name. 

    https://www.johngrenham.com/surnames/ There is also a site where you can search surnames and if you subscribe read more, this is a UK site 

    https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780198868255.001… There are some famous Gage people including some general in the 1700s. 

    In the 1850s in Griffiths Valuation there is a Revd. Robert G

    age with land in Errigal in Donegal and also a lot in Rathlin, Co, Antrim, Rathlin is an island so assume there. There area two other Roberts (non Revd.) on Rathlin also so maybe that family, but withour parents names it is really guessing.

    Naughton is a Scottish name but found in Ireland mainly I would think in the northern counties. Roots Ireland is not showing an Naughton / Ellen Oliver marriage 1820 to 1880. Civil records for aProtestant marriages are here from 1845, for all from 1864 under the civil icon, under the church icon Kerry church records are available, very few other counties though, the site is free but sign in. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ 

    If you search this site under Historical GIS you will see that the Gage name occurs as landowners in 1641 this was pre plantation, however the Oliver name in Kerry & Limerick only appears in the 1671 land owners so possibly planted but that area of the country was not overly associated with plantation but I am not a historian. https://downsurvey.tchpc.tcd.ie/index.html 

    You could start by trying the Kerry and Limerick libraries and archives to see what they have but it will not be BMD records. 

    Here is the list of parishes that the Church of Ireland have and they have Blennerville but they only commence in 1844, however they are on the Roots Ireland site that I am using and you marriage did not turn up. https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/list-of-parish-regis…

    Please revert if you have any follow up to your query.

    Good Luck

    Pat

     

    Pat O Holloran, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Sunday 3rd Mar 2024, 12:05AM

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