Hello All -
I’m trying to locate a Clounmeen/Cloomveen on the Dingle Pennisula. It appears in several 19th century baptism and marriage records in the Annascaul district. The same family has events also in Derrygorman, at times it seems like Clounmeen and Derrygorman are interchangeable. I’ve looked in many different geographical sources without success.
I’ve considered three possibilities:
- Could there be a small hamlet or section of Derrygorman by that name known only locally?
- Alternatively, I see a hilltop named Cummeen to the northeast of Derrygorman, perhaps lands near there are “Cloumeen”
- Farther Northeast in the parish of Killiney is a townland Glanmane. Perhaps, Cloumeen/Cloomveen are phonetic spellings of Glanmane as pronounced locally?
One Annascaul record, a civil death record, gives the death location as Clounmeen, Ballinvoher, which would seem to eliminate options 2 and 3 above as they are not located in Ballinvoher. I’m hoping it’s the first option because that would help cement a link I’ve been pursuing.
I suspect only a local could answer this question.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Michael
Sylvilagus
Sunday 3rd Sep 2023, 06:09PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Michael, Perhaps post a couple of the docs so we can see the handwriting? Thanks.
Patricia
Sunday 3rd Sep 2023, 09:30PM -
Thanks for getting back to me. The handwriting seems very clear to me across several different documents and my reading matches the official transcriptions from irishgenalogy.ie. But here are some samples, all from Annascaul District, from a few decades. Most use the spelling “Clounmeen”, one uses “Cloumeen.” The Cloomveen variant shows up only in the transcription of one birth record from 1871 on irishgenalogy.ie and I don’t have access to the original document. Notice that some documents place Clounmeen in Ballinvoher, others in Ballynacourty. These same families show up listed in Derrygorman in various places.
Sylvilagus
Monday 4th Sep 2023, 11:25AM