Hi, Mary McDonnel is my great great grandmother who came to Australia on the pemberton in 1849 as part of the earl grey orphans transport scheme.
She married John Candy an englishman from Frome Somerset, settled in the wimmera, near horsham, in victoria.
Her Mother was Bridget McDonnel nee Caine, her father Simon McDonnel.
Mary was born 1831 and died 1907. She had 7 children.
I am trying to trace the family in ireland but to date have not had much success.
The passenger list shows her name as McDonald. Her death certificate shows Mc Donnel. I'm sure there may be other possibilities.
I do not know of the where abouts of her parents or siblings if any.
She came from a group of girls from Kilrush, also which is listed as her place of birth on her death certificate.
Any help or hints would be much appreciated
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Sean
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Thursday 16th May 2013, 09:39AMMessage Board Replies
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Sinan McDonnell and Bridget Kean are recorded in the index to the Catholic baptismal register for Kilrush parish as having the following children:
Mary baptised 12 Sep 1828
Joan 19 Oct 1831
Mary 16 Apr 1835
Michael 25 Aug 1839
You will find additional details in the original register which is available on microfilm in the National Library of Ireland or Clare County Library or via the LDS Church.
Paddy Waldron, IrelandXO Volunteer
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Thanks for the results much appreciated. On finding her marriage certificate in victoria, mary was married i n st Peter's church melbourne. One of her witness's was a Johanna Mcdonnell. a companion on the Pemnberton ship which transported orhans from kilrush in 1849 listed a johanna with mary. Ages fit the years also. Would johanna be a variation used for joan or v v? I'm thinking this may be her sister with her at the wedding. any thoughts?
SEANO
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I'm wondering if your Simon McDonnell might be the father of my ggrandfather Simon McDonnell. My ggrandfather was born approx. 1925 in the Kilrush area of Co. Clare. He married Mary Collins about 1853. I have no records for him and do not know his father or mothers names.
He emmigrated to Ontario Canada in about 1864. I cannot find a passenger list for him, but I do have the passenger list for Mary McDonnell and their first 5 children who were born in Ireland. Mary came over to Canada in August 1865 on the "St. George" with Bridget age 10 (1854), Michael age 8 (1857), James age 5 (1860), Margaret age 4 (1861) and Patrick age 1 1/2 (1863). They had 4 more children in St. Marys, Ontario. Simon died in 1890 and Mary lived until 1921.
Does anyone have any information on this family or might anyone be able to look for records at the catholic church in Kilrush? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Marianne Powers
Lakem Orion, Michigan
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I do not think they are related. dates don't match up at all and Mary left Ireland for Australia in 1848 on the ship Pemberton as part of the earl grey scheme.
Sorry, best of luck
regards
Sean
. King Island, Tasmania, Australia
SEANO
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Just came across this information while researcing something else. Might be relevant.
- Surname : MacDonald [McDonald,McDonnell]
- First Name : Mary
- Age on arrival : 18
- Native Place : Kilrush, Clare
- Parents : Sinan McDonnell & Bridget Kean [Kilrush parish]
- Religion : Roman Catholic
- Ship name : Pemberton (Melbourne 1849)
- Workhouse : Kilrush, Clare
Other : Shipping: houseservant, reads only; Empl. Mr McLean, grocer, Little Collins St., ?10, 6 mths; married John Candy, Melbourne, 1 Jul 1850 [witness Johanna McDonnell, probably shipmate & possible relative]; 9 children in the Wimmera, Victoria (4 in Horsham area); Mary died at Hawthorn 29 Oct 1907; research of baptisims at Kilrush, shows parents Sinon [Simon on her death] McDonnell & Bridget Caine; Mary had 2 sisters & a brother whose fate is unknown
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Just came across this information while researcing something else. Might be relevant.
- Surname : MacDonald [McDonald,McDonnell]
- First Name : Mary
- Age on arrival : 18
- Native Place : Kilrush, Clare
- Parents : Sinan McDonnell & Bridget Kean [Kilrush parish]
- Religion : Roman Catholic
- Ship name : Pemberton (Melbourne 1849)
- Workhouse : Kilrush, Clare
Other : Shipping: houseservant, reads only; Empl. Mr McLean, grocer, Little Collins St., ?10, 6 mths; married John Candy, Melbourne, 1 Jul 1850 [witness Johanna McDonnell, probably shipmate & possible relative]; 9 children in the Wimmera, Victoria (4 in Horsham area); Mary died at Hawthorn 29 Oct 1907; research of baptisims at Kilrush, shows parents Sinon [Simon on her death] McDonnell & Bridget Caine; Mary had 2 sisters & a brother whose fate is unknown
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Thanks for your interest and help
regards
Sean
SEANO
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SEANO
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Mary Mcdonnell also had a sister Johanna who also emigrated on the ship pemberton,1849. She was a witness at Mary's wedding with a witness William Doherty july St Peter's church, Melbourne Australia 1850. Johanna married one Alexander Doherty (same as Alexander or brother?) 1854 in Geelong Australia and had 5 children Mary Ann,Bridget,William, Margaret and Hannah.Johannah remarried in 1862 to Philip Stephens in St Scot's church Melbourne Australia and had two more children Johanna and Philip. Johanna died 1912at the Little Sisters of the Poor, Northcote, Australia. Her remains were buried at the Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Victoria Australia.
Also irish records show Baptismal record, St Senan's, Count Clare,Diocese of Killaloe.Parents recorded as Sinon or Simon McDonnell and Biddy Kean.Witness Pat Walls(?) and Sally Rochford. I am still trying to establish where in Kilrush they may have lived and what became of brother Michael and parents Sinan and Bridget.
SEANO
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The registers for Kilrush parish in County Clare are now online at
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0808(This discussion has for some reason been moved to County Kildare after the old irelandxo.com website was deleted.)
No address is given for the first Mary's baptism:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634783#page/13/mode/1up
or for Johanna's baptism:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634783#page/31/mode/1up
or for the second Mary's baptism:
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634783#page/51/mode/1upFor Michael's baptism, the address is given as "Kilrush":
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634783#page/83/mode/1upSo at least you know that in 1839 the family was in the town and not in the rural part of the parish.
Paddy Waldron, IrelandXO Volunteer