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WELSH - KILKENNY/TIPPERARY TO AUSTRALIA, 1856

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I've since located Patrick Welsh marrying Catherine Morris/Maurice in Launceston, two weeks after arriving. Catherine was the applicant for Patrick's ticket and already a free settler in Launceston.  None of the Welsh ship passengers were noted as witnesses at the wedding.  Patrick and Catherine had at least six children, all born in Launceston and recorded variously as Welsh or Walsh.

 

Would any member have connections please with Margaret, Patrick and James WELSH from Kilkenny (no idea of townland), who arrived in Launceston, Tasmania in 1856?  Per the attached shipping record (WELSH listed below the purple line), Margaret was aged 21, Patrick 20 and James 18.  Margaret and James had consecutive tickets and the same sponsor - Patrick Welsh (their brother Patrick travelling with them?).

My ancestors are the Thomas and Bridget Welsh also listed, from neighbouring Tipperary, whose origins I've struggled to trace.  I'm wondering if they had any relationship to the Kilkenny passengers. Thomas and Bridget remained and married in Tasmania, I haven't found what happened to the Kilkenny passengers after they disembarked in Launceston.

I have a number of low DNA matches with Walsh/Welsh researchers that I haven't been able to verify.  One lady did state she traced WELSH ancestors in both Tipperary and Kilkenny who could be the same people, but she didn't respond to my follow up.

 

 

Jan

Thursday 13th August 2020, 06:46AM

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  • Hi Jan

    Youhave probably realized Welsh/Walsh a common name in Kilkenny Sometimes an e added on the end as well.

    None of those names you list seem linked- to my husbands ancestor who came from Thomastown, Kilkenny

    For Tasmania- try the free Tasmanian Library site- not all the BDMs are listed but you may be lucky-there is a lot of other information

    I recently used the Launceston branch of the Tasmanian Family history organisation and they have a fairly low cost initial fee for research

    Goodluck

    Moranding

     

     

    moranding

    Friday 14th August 2020, 12:10AM
  • Thank you. I live in Launceston and have utilised those local resources, I've been researching this line for over twenty years. There were so many people with those  same names in baptismal records etc in the 1800s in both Kilkenny and Tipperary. Along with all the variants of the surname (you missed Welch, also sometimes with an 'e'), it has been a frustrating search. Certainly my DNA testing confirmed distant links in Tipperary and Kilkenny so I'm confident I'm on the right track.

     

    Jan

    Friday 14th August 2020, 06:28AM
  • Hi Jan:

    Would you consider creating an Ancestor profile for the Welsh family individually on the XOChronicles?  You may get responses with the information that you have.  The link is below and the profiles are very easy to create.  They are widely read, updated to all members in the local area of Ireland or county every week, and often others are researching the same families.  

    The link is here:  https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy

    If you have any other questions, please let us know.

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Friday 14th August 2020, 10:26AM
  • Hello. I created a profile in the Chronicles for my direct ancestor Thomas Welsh ages ago. I’ve also posted messages previously seeking assistance in tracing him and his sister Bridget. This message was revisiting the brick wall in that research.

    Everything I know on the Kilkenny Welsh passengers is in my message above; there’s really nothing much to post about them in the Chronicles at this stage. If I find anything helpful I certainly would create profiles.  

    I have added ancestors’ profiles from other sides of my family in the Chronicles and also posted in the Buildings section.  This is a marvellous resource for genealogists and I’m so proud of my Irish heritage - if only those ancestors weren’t so difficult to trace!

     

    Jan

    Jan

    Friday 14th August 2020, 10:34PM