James Cummins (Commons) Died 1861

Des:

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Roger

Des:

I think the 1847 marriage is correct.

I searched on the subscription site Roots Ireland and found four baptismal records in Portarlington RC church for children of James Cummins and Bridget (Biddy) McDonald: William 1848 Mary 1850 Joseph 1855 John 1860. Three of the names match up with your list.

I don't think the 1861 death record is correct. Ballon and Rathoe RC parish is in Co. Carlow. Very few RC parishes maintained death information. Ballon and Rathoe was an exception.

Civil registration of deaths did not begin until 1864.

The civil parish corresponding to Portarlington RC parish is Lea. In the Griffiths Valuation for Lea civil parish there is a listing for a James Commins in Ballybrittas townland. This could be your ancestor. 

The Portarlington baptismal records start in 1826. I did not find a record for a James Commins or Bridget McDonald in that time period.

Roger McDonnell

Thank You again Roger. It mystifies me and I am no further, they really dont want to be found. I will look at the Lea records, for a James Commins in Ballybrittas townland. Any further suggestions please mail me

Regards and many thanks again.

Des

Hi Roger
I found another James Cummins marrying a "Bess McDonald" in Portarlington which I discounted some time ago.  Do you think this could be them. I know I am grasping at straws at this point, but if you could throw a quick eye over it PLEASE I would value your opnion

Regards
Des

Des:

I saw that record and eliminated the record as a possibility. There was only one baptismal record for James Commons and Bess McDonald in all of Co. Laois-- an Eliza baptized in 1843. The 1847 marriage fit with the years you listed for the birth of the children plus three of the baptismal names matched up with your list.

Roger

Thanks Roger.

I know as a written fact from John James's Son, born 1860 when he joined the army, he states that his father died when he was one and he lived with his "Grandmother McDonald" He joined the army on the 23/9/1881 as John McDonald and discharged 22/9/1893.Also his birth cert is from Portarlington. We have a possibility that a James Cummins who died 1861in "Rathrush" is that far away from Portarlington?. I am also wondering about graveyard listings from 1860, for the area or any other fountains of knowledge I should be looking up or should I just give up the ghost on James ... I just cant seem to get past Cummins / McDonald Family other than John 1861 + family. 

Regards

Des