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Hi there

I've been researching John Downey and Clarinda Supple of Ardcanny and Pallas. I'm hoping someone here might help me get past some roadblocks.

I have tracked down John Downey's baptism in May 1834 - parents Timothy Downey and Mary Ryan http://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000634959_019

However I can find no information on either Timothy Downey or Mary Ryan, apart from a mention of Timothy in Griffiths Valuation for Pallas, Rathkeale in 1850

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doName...

Regarding Clarinda Supple, I believe she came from a Palatine family. On her marriage record, it says her father was William Supple https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGCG-HDW

The Griffiths Valuation I linked to above also lists a William Supple, so it looks like they were neighbours!

This might be the same William Supple (born 1804) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR9Z-B4M whose parents are listed as Philip Supple and Margaret.

There the trail runs cold.

 

Can anyone help?

many thanks

 

 

 

 

 

brianf1

Wednesday 15th June 2016, 06:51PM

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  • Hi Brian

    I assume you have this record:

    Date of Marriage:
    05-Feb-1856
    Parish / District:ARDCANNY & CHAPEL RUSSELL
    County:Co. Limerick
    Husband
    WifeName:JohnDowney
    ClarindaSuppleAddress:Parish Of Ardcanny
    Pallaskenry ,chapel RussellDenomination:Church Of Ireland
    Church Of IrelandOccupation:FARMER
    Age:
    Status:
    Husband's Father
    Wife's FatherName:TimothyDowney
    WilliamSupple

    No Clarindas but this one looks relevant:

    Name:
    Bridget SuppleDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:04-May-1828Address:
    Parish/District:ARDCANNY & CHAPEL RUSSELLGender:FemaleCountyCo. Limerick
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:William Supple SuppleMother:Mary Breen

    Siblings?:

    Name:
    John SuppleDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:16-Mar-1834Address:
    Parish/District:ARDCANNY & CHAPEL RUSSELLGender:MaleCountyCo. Limerick
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:William SuppleMother:Unknown

    Name:
    Peggy SuppleDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:12-Dec-1840Address:
    Parish/District:ARDCANNY & CHAPEL RUSSELLGender:FemaleCountyCo. Limerick
    Denomination:Church Of Ireland
    Father:William SuppleMother:Ann  (different mother?)

    Possible record for John; (there wasn't one with mother Ryan)

    Name:
    John DowneyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:19-Jul-1834Address:BallymacartParish/District:ARDMOREGender:
    CountyCo. Waterford
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Timothy DowneyMother:Mary WhiteOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:John ColbertSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Harty

    Col

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 16th June 2016, 05:00AM
  • Hi Col

    I really appreciate the reply!

    I hadn't come across the Bridget or Peggy Supple records before - it would be great to confirm who Clarinda's mother was, and also to confirm William Supple's parents.

    John Downey's parents are definitely Timothy Downey and Mary Ryan - you can see the it on the baptism cert I linked to in my first post. That was from Kildimo parish records.

    I would love to find Timothy and Mary's baptism or marriage records.

    thanks again, and best wishes

    Brian

    brianf1

    Thursday 16th June 2016, 09:34AM
  • No luck with the above, Brian but Clarinda is so uncommon that perhaps she was recorded as something else at birth/baptism?

    There are 27 Supple Baptism records for Ardcanny & Chapel Russell Parish (C I) 1803-79; assuming the marriage took place in the bride's home parish as was the custom

    If Clarinda was married in 1856 she was probably born & baptised around 1835; 

    These are the only 2 with father William of the right age

    Church BaptismSuppleBridget1828Co. Limerick

    Church BaptismSupplePeggy1840Co. Limerick

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 17th June 2016, 11:12AM
  • Thanks again Col. I really appreciate it.

    You are probably right that maybe Clarinda was not her birth name. The strange thing is that Peggy is usually short for Margaret, and Clarinda's daugher was named Margaret. But why would the baptism say Peggy and not Margaret?

    Where did you find the Peggy Supple birth record? Is there a Protestant birth records website?

     

    thanks
    Brian

    brianf1

    Saturday 18th June 2016, 11:48AM
  • The records were from www.rootsireland.ie/ which is a subscription site.

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 19th June 2016, 09:26PM