John Kennedy and Margaret Burke, sons John, Michael and Martin

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I searched on the subscription site Roots Ireland and did not find any baptismal records for the children of John Kennedy and his wife Margaret likely because Cappamore baptismal records start in 1842.

Michael Kennedy and Ann English were actually married on February 27, 1859 and on the subscription site Roots Ireland I also located a baptismal record for a William Kennedy in November 1861.

Roger McDonnell

Date of Marriage:27-Feb-1859
Parish / District:CAPPAMORE
County:Co. Limerick
Husband  MichaelKennedy
Wife AnneEnglish

Name:William KennedyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:25-Nov-1861Address:Not RecordedParish/District:CAPPAMOREGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Michael KennedyMother:Anne EnglishOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Edward English Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Anne Connell 

Roger----Thank you so much for looking.  I found the marriage on Ancestry but not the Baptism so I will add it to my Ancestry Profiles.  All pieces of information are valuable as they may lead elsewhere.    

I knew about the records issue as John Grenham and NLI incidicate that at this point there are no available records for the time period in which the brothers were born.  I've found information in New York City and through Australian records and am piecing things together along with what I have from Wisconsin.  I think there may also have been a sibling who went to Canada but I haven't gotten a handle on that yet!  This is a family truly representative of the Irish disapora.  

My Great-Great Grandparents Kennedy were most likely from Kilcommon, Tipperary.  The DNA trail leads to Hollyford and Upperchurch.  Records issues again, as at this point, records are only available from about 1815 on so much will most likely remain a mystery.  

Again, thank you.  Carolyn

Greetings Carolyn,

I have just come across your query on the Cappamore site, and hopefully you are keeping your eye out for messages regarding assistance in your search as I am also.

Regarding your post of Kennedy/Burke.

My B(o)urke family ancestors were residents of Cappamore Parish early 1800s, with offspring being born in Turagh, Dromsally, Farnane, Portane and Cappamore from 1863 to 1879.

The earliest family member I have been able to find was my great-great grandfather John B(o)urke and his wife Margaret Gavan/Gaven/Garvin etc. These names come from family records. I have not been able to locate any information on them whatsoever.

Maybe, your Margaret was a close relative of the above John as the timeline would indicate. My great grandfather Daniel is reported as being born September 1828 in Cappamore. Daniel and his wife Mary Ellen Carmody married in Cappamore in 1862.

Daniel and Margaret together with their seven Irish-born children emigrated to Australia in 1882.

I know of one brother of Daniel's, a Patrick who came to Australia some years before Daniel's arrival.

Lastly, through my DNA, I have established connections to Kennedys.

Looking forward to your (or anyone elses) thoughts on the above.

Peter Burke.

Greetings Peter---I would be glad to compare notes with you.  I wish there was a way to send a private message to you, but I don't see a way to do that.  If you happen to be on Facebook, there is a group called Burke Burk Bourke DNA GENEALOGY GROUP (de Burgh) All Burkes welcome.   I am a moderator in that group and we'd love to have you.  We also have a GEDmatch genealogy project you can join, and there are other Limerick Burkes and other Aussies also.  Carolyn

Hi Carolyn and Peter.  I am a volunteer with Ireland reaching out.

If you email me at  mallow1@irelandxo.com  I will put you in touch.

Best of luck.

Christina Irelandxo Volunteer.

Hello Carolyn & Peter, 

On MyHeritage I have a match with a Bourke in Doon. When I saw the name Bourke in your post, along with Peter's mention of Cappamore and Turagh, I had to respond. My great-grandparents were Thomas Ryan and Bridget Mackey, who married in Cappamore in 1844. They had six children, all baptized in Cappamore. Among the six was my great-grandmother Hanora Ryan, born in Turagh and baptized in Cappamore in 1849. 

Although I've not yet been able to confirm it as fact, Bridget Mackey's parents might have been Richard Mackey and Margaret Kennedy; based on one of my matches who definitely descends from the Mackey-Kennedy line. I have a large number of Kennedy matches. 

Would appreciate hearing from either or both of you. 

Thanks for posting!!!

Elizabeth Byrne

Greetings Elizabeth,

Surprise, Surprise!

Through records I purchased some years ago, I have a couple of your ancestral surnames linked as sponsors for my great grandparents, Daniel Bourke's/Mary Ellen Carmody's offspring at the time of their Baptisms.

Firstly for my great-aunt Margaret Bourke of Turagh, Cappamore Parish, bapt. 12 Mar 1865, sponsors Jer Mack (I take this to be Jeremiah Mackey) and Ellen Noonan. I searched for Jer Mack and found a person by the name of Jeremiah Mackey, Cappamore, shoemaker, whose wife was a Johana Gavan for the birth of a daughter Julia 1/1/1870. So the timeline fits for Margaret Bourke's baptism.

Secondly, my great uncle Thomas Bourke, baptised Parish of Cappamore, 29 July 1866, sponsors William Ryan and Mary Ryan (husband and wife?). Could Mary Ryan's maiden name be Bourke prior to marriage or were William and Mary brother and sister? 

I will include other Cappamore Parish surnames which are associated with sponsoring other Bourke children associated with my Irish-born family are: Carmody (mother of the children's maiden name). Gavan, reported to be the maiden surname (various spellings recorded in a variety of records) of Daniel Bourke's mother Margaret). Whelan, Fennelly, Cleary, Meehan.

At this stage of proceedings I have not been able to unearth any records of my great-great grandparents John B(o)urke and Margaret Gavan/Gaven/Gavin/Garven etc. I presume they were born late 1700s or early 1800s. I have records of the two family surnames registered in the Cappamore area back in the 1600s, but not of exact families.

As you will already know I have connections with the Kennedys also. This could also apply to Mackeys and Ryans as in the past parish families inter-married. As this support strengthened themselves in good and bad times.

Elizabeth, if I can help, please let me know. Also if you have any records dealing with Carmody/Riordan/Reardon etc./B(o)urke/Gavan etc. of Cappamore Parish, I am all ears.

Please keep in touch.

KInd regards and stay healthy during these virulent times.

Peter Burke.

Hi Peter,

Thanks so much for your response and all of the information. 

Although your ancestors' names didn't appear in the baptism records for my Ryan family, I did note that in the 1826 Tithe Applotment there was a James Bourke, John Gavin, and Catherine Whelan in Turagh. Then, for the Griffith's Valuation there was a Patrick Carmody, Anastatia Burke, James Burke, and Edmund Kennedy all residing in Turagh. You probably already have this information. 

Since there were a couple of Turagh/Cappamore residents by the name of Thomas Ryan, namely Thomas Ryan (Luke) and Thomas Ryan (Stephen), I've requested Limerick Genealogy research which Thomas Ryan is my great-great-grandfather.  

Have you had a Y-DNA test done? I asked my first cousin Bill Casey to go through FamilyTreeDNA and we found out some interesting history on our Casey roots.

Are you on Ancestry or MyHeritage or any of the other genealogy sites by any chance?  

It's great to be in touch with someone whose ancestors literally walked with mine! 

Sleinte,

Liz  :)  

Greetings Liz,

Thank you for the reply.

Yes, I am aware of the Tithe Applotment surnames, also the Griffith's Valuation records which contain quite a number of B(o)urkes in the Cappamore area. Have tried to trace all but no luck as yet.

I have had my DNA tested through Ancestry, which I believe is Autosomal. It is also listed with Gedmatch.

My Burke Family Tree owner Peter Burke, Australia is open for viewing on Ancestry.

You should be able to contact me through Ancestry if you manage to call up my tree.

Not only could our ancestors have trodden familiar paths, it is nigh possible they could have shared bloodlines.

Very interesting stage.

Kind regards and stay healthy,

Peter Burke, Australia.

P.S. keep in touch.

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