Greeting all, I was wondering about my Leahy connection to Kilfinane. Through DNA testing, I believe I am related to the Patrick Leahy who married Ellen McCarthy (both born around 1806/1807). I am not sure though where my John Leahy fits in - he was born around 1840 and married a Catherine (Kate) O' Donoghue / Donohoe from Hospital. They ran a grocer and a pub in Charleville's Broad Street in the 1870s. on their marriage cert it lists John Leahy's father as being JOHN, a farmer. My family lore has it that the Leahys were from Kilmallock and the DNA testing seems to confirm me back to 2 people whose ancestors are this Patrick Leahy, so am wondering if my John is his brother. Does have anyone have any further information on these Leahys, or of there are any Leahys reading, have you a Gedmatch DNA kit number that I could possibly compare with? I was hoping to do this for my father's 80th, but it is proving harder than I thought! Thank you all for reading - Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
Tuesday 30th Mar 2021, 02:30PMMessage Board Replies
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Jackie:
The subscription site Roots Ireland has a number of John Leahy baptismal records ( with father John) in the 1830s, none in 1840-1842 and then there are two 1843 records and one in 1844. The one in 1844 is the only one in Kilmallock parish.
February 12 1844 Kilmallock father John Leahy and mother Ellen Gubbins.
The Kilmallock records start in 1837 and Kilfinnane start in 1831 so it will be difficult to go back further.
Not sure if the record above is correct but possibly the father John Leahy is a brother or cousin to the Patrick Leahy born around 1806.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hello Jackie
I will check my Ged match, what is your Gedmatch kit #?
Kevin Leahy
cdn1972
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Hi Kevin and thank you - it is RY4728962
Jackie Leahy
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thank you Roger. Does Kilmallock fall under your territory? I am also pulling my hair out with the (O)Donoghue/Donohoe family!
Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
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thank you Roger. Does Kilmallock fall under your territory? I am also pulling my hair out with the (O)Donoghue/Donohoe family!
Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
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Jackie:
I'm a generalist volunteer and answer messages mainly for counties in the Republic. I would suggest that you post a new message about your O'Donoghue family.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hello Jackie
Sorry no connection to the Leahy's of Mitchelstown as that is where i come from and we have no match at Gedmatch.
Kevin Leahy
cdn1972
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Kevin, thank you for checking that. At least I know where he is not from!!! Happy easter
Jackie Leahy
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thank you Roger, I will. Happy Easter and thank you - all of you - for all you do for the community at large :)
Jackie Leahy
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Thanks Jackie! Happy Easter!
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Jackie
My sister's husband belongs to one of the three Leahy families of Teermore, Kilfinane. His uncle, an Optician called Michael Leahy (deceased) who lived in LImerick left a fairly sizable box of documents that I had a look at this evening. I can see that his family tree starts with Patrick Leahy & Ellen McCarthy. While I can see references to Charleville, the other information does not appear to completely tie up. My sister thinks you may have already phoned her about a month ago and come to the same conclusion? A lot of the notes were handwritten and incomplete but if you would like to email me, I will be happy to send you a photos or scans of the main documents that might help you.
Best wishes
Tim (darragh@IrelandXO.com)
Tim O'Connell
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I wil do so now Tim. THANK YOU!
Jackie Leahy
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Dear Jackie,
This could be a surprise for you if the contact is accurate. My Great great grandfather was Patrick Leahy born in Limerick in 1807. He was married with a family??? He got into some serious trouble and was transported to Sydney N.S.W. Australia on the convict ship "Earl Grey" after being on the hulk "Surprise" in 1836.Ref. Irish Transportation Records He married again a convict lady and produced another family. This was encouraged by the N.S.W. Governor. Her name was Bridget Dwyer. They had a pub in Sussex Street Sydney which is close to the harbour, but in those days quite rough, The area now is very up market, Have not done a DNA test yet, but now might be the time.
Sincerely hope this helps,
Best Wishes,
Dawn
Eileendawn
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Jackie,
You match my husband John E "Jack" O'Neill at 7.5 generations to Most Recent Common Ancestor, but unfortunately my research has only taken me back five generations. Jack's grandmother was Mary Leahy O'Neill Ryan of Kilmallock. She immigrated to Boston and married there, but her Leahys were from Kilmallock and the surrounding townlands (Martinstown, Knocksouna, etc.).
Clare Powers O'Neill
capon
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Firstly Dawn, I thought I had replied to you already - huge apologies, I was certainly not ignoring your post! I wonder what the "serious trouble" was! Another Leahy I have a DNA link to (this time from a separate side of my family but also happens to be "Leahy", but from County Kilkenny) had the misfortune of having 2 husbands die and she and her young children were convicted of stealing a sheep and they were sent to Australia. So sad. Luckily for you, she survived, married again and her descendants are still Down Under! Without a DNA test it is hard to see if there is a real connection, so please do get back in contact if you ever do one! Also, there is a Leahy FB page if you are interested.
Clare! Thank you for your post. I am currently speaking to 2 Mary Leahys - both hailing from Kilmallock area (I think neither live there now though) and I am related to one of them (awaiting DNA result for the second Mary). If you have an Ancestry or Myheritage account I would love to hear from you.
Thank you! Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
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Jackie,
Patrick LEAHY
Born in Limerick 1807???Died ? Transported: Earl Grey 15th July 1836. Religion: Roman Catholic, Married: In Ireland, Family: 1 Male child, Trade: Farm Labourer, Offence: Murder Thomas KENNEDY, Tried 15th July 1836 - Life, Convict was convicted with James and John BURNS, Height 5'6", Complexion Dark Sallow Eyes Grey Description: Lost a front upper tooth, four blue dots back of right hand, two back of left, raised mole back of left side of neck. Ticket of Leave, Conditional Pardon. I have a death date which seems inacccurate 21st September, 1903?? He was also held on the hulk "Surprise" before being transported. Hope you find this interesting.
Dawn
Eileendawn
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May I ask a perhaps stupid question regarding the surname Leahy?
Would (O')Leary be another form of Leahy or how would they be related?
Many thanks in anticipation of your responses.
Warm regards,
Lizanne Ellis
Lizanne Ellis
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Hi Lizanne, I am not an expert, so please do your own research, but I know from havingn joined the Leahy FB page that there are indeed many varients of the name Leahy, like Lahey, Lahy, Leahey, O'Leahy, but the name Leary or O'Leary is a different name altogether. O Leary comes from the Irish Ó Laoghaire or Ó Laoire. To quote Ancestry: "Americanized form of Ó Laoghaire ‘descendant of Laoghaire’, a byname originally meaning ‘keeper of the calves’, from laogh ‘calf’. This was the name of a 5th-century king of Ireland." Leahy on the other hand: "reduced Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Laochdha ‘descendant of Laochdha’, a personal name derived from laoch ‘hero’." They are both Munster names though, so common in Co Cork.
Hope tha thelps to establish that Leahy and O Leary are separate surnames.
Thanks, Jackie
Jackie Leahy
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Jackie,
My husband is not interested in genealogy, so has no on-line trees. But here is his Leahy lineage:
Gen 5 Patrick Leahy, born ?, died ?, married ?
Gen 4 James Leahy, born ?, died before 1892, wife Bridget Kennedy
Gen 3 Michael Joseph Leahy, born 1872 Ballynagallagh Kilmallock, died 1955 Martinstown Kilmallock, wife Mary Downes
Gen 2 Mary Leahy, born 1894 Lower Sunville Kilmallock, died 1972 Boston, husbands Edmund O'Neill & Patrick Ryan
Gen 1 John E O'Neill, born 1919 Boston, died 1998 Boston, wife Dorothea McCarthy
Gen 0 John E O'Neill Jr, born 1947 Boston, married to me!!
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Hi there and thank you for that info. Without the DNA testing it is hard to confirm if there is a connection or not. I did some research and found the follwoing from a user on myheritage which you may be interested in:
Patrick Leahy 1796 - 1875 - (Bruff, Co Limerick - father is listed as Michael Leahy)
married
Allicia Leo 1796 - 1884Children listed as:
James 1842/43 - married Bridget Kennedy 1837- 1909 in Bruff, Co Limerick
Michael
Lawrence
Catherine
Daniel
John
Mary AliceYou know the rest! Bruff is very close to that area, but not sure without the DNA testing if I am oart of this clann!
Thank you, Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
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Lizanne, yes I found this interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing your Leahy story. The more parts to the jigsaw, the better at eventually helping to see a clearer picture!
Jackie Leahy
Jackie Leahy
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Hi Jackie,
A bit late for your Dad's 80th but never too late with genealogy!
Patrick Leahy ((1805-1870) was my Great Great Grandfather. He married Ellen McCarthy (1804 - 1885) on 13th Feb 1825 in Bulgaden parish. I believe Patrick Leahy's Dad (my Great Great Great Grandfather was Roger Leahy Born 1790 but I am stuck here with no further info.
Patrick & Ellen had 9 children, the youngest Daniel (1851-1908) was my Great Grandfather. One of the 9 children was John Leahy born 1830. I do not have further information on him at this point.
My Gedmatch number is BU7537990
Kind regards,
Mary Leahy
Galway.
GalwayLeahy
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thank you Mary for the reply. I have come across other descendants of Patrick Leahy. Are you on the Leahy FB page which (like here) is very helpful. Not sure if there is a way to connect offline with each other?
Jackie Leahy
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Hi Jackie
This Leahy Family gets larger every minute is all I can say at present is ''I do not know what they did for a living but I certainly know what they did for a pastime''.
I have no doubt whatever that the Leahy family in Broad St. Charleville and the Leahy Family in Creggane were one and the same Leahys. There are decendents of the Creggane Leahy's living in Mallow they would have been the Children of Tom Leahy who inherited the farm and sold it 1970's his children would now in their 60's.
Quain, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘