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Hi. I am searching for information about my gr gr grandparents Daniel McCarthy and Ellen Murphy. They immigrated to the Springfield Massachuttes area around 1879/80. I have not been able to find any ship listings for them but they do show up in the 1880 US census. At that time, the family included daughter Mary born in 1877 in Ireland and possibly another daughter Hanora (but I’m not sure if she was born in Ireland or in America). Mary McCarthy, Daniel’s mother also came with them. I think her maiden name was McClean or McGleen.  Daniel was a blacksmith. 

I believe that Ellen Murphy was born in 1855 and her husband Daniel was born around 1858. A DNA match has led me to Limerick County but I have no other names to assist with locating additional family. I have found possible records of a marriage for a Daniel McCarthy/ Ellen Murphy on 14 October 1875 in the Parish of Knockany and Patrickswell. Additionally, a Mary McCarthy was born to Ellen and Daniel McCarthy in Jan 8 1877 in Knockaney (Ireland’s Birth and Baptisms 1620-1881).  Could this be them?

I would like to know if I am looking at the correct Ellen and Daniel and if there might be more information ( parents, brothers sisters) concerning either the Murphys or the McCarthys. Any info would be welcome.  

Thanks

Sue

 

Ostinato

Monday 16th Jul 2018, 09:05PM

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  • Sue,
    I pulled these records from RootsIreland. You might already have?? It looks like you have identified the right family since they are blacksmiths and Daniel was the informant at his father’s death. My McCarthy family came from Darranstown, Bulgaden-Martinstown, Limerick which is close to Knockainey. Where do you have your DNA results?
    Regards- Mary

    te of Marriage: 14-Oct-1875
    Parish / District: KNOCKAINY & PATRICKSWELL County: Co. Limerick

    Husband Wife
    Name: Daniel Mccarthy Ellen Murphy
    Address:
    Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
    Occupation:
    Age:
    Status:

    Husband's Father Wife's Father
    Name: Mccarthy Murphy
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
    Name:
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Witness 1 Witness 2
    Name: Michael Byrns Ellen Turner
    Address:
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    Date of Marriage: 16-Nov-1875
    Parish / District: BRUFF County: Co. Limerick

    Husband Wife
    Name: Daniel Mccarthy Ellen Murphy
    Address: Knockaney Knockaney
    Denomination: Civil Record Civil Record
    Occupation: BLACKSMITH SHOPKEEPER
    Age: 22 22
    Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)

    Husband's Father Wife's Father
    Name: Michael Mccarthy James Murphy
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation: BLACKSMITH SHOEMAKER

    Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
    Name:
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Witness 1 Witness 2
    Name: Michael Byrnes Ellen Turner
    Address:
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    Name: Mary Mccarthy Date of Birth: 08-Jan-1877
    Registration Date: 30-Jan-1877
    Address: Knockany Parish/District: BRUFF
    Gender: Female County Co. Limerick
    Denomination: Civil Record

    Father: Daniel Mccarthy Mother: Ellen Murphy
    Occupation: Smith

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Honora Murphy Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Name: Hanora Mccarthy Date of Birth: 15-Mar-1879
    Registration Date: 18-Mar-1879
    Address: Knockaney Parish/District: BRUFF
    Gender: Female County Co. Limerick
    Denomination: Civil Record

    Father: Daniel Mccarthy Mother: Ellen Murphy
    Occupation: Blacksmith

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Mary Cleary Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Name: Honora Mccarthy Date of Birth:
    Date of Baptism: 16-Mar-1879
    Address: Parish/District: KNOCKAINY & PATRICKSWELL
    Gender: Unknown County Co. Limerick
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Daniel Mccarthy Mother: Ellen Murphy
    Occupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: James Morrissy Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Honora Murphy

    Notes:
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    Name: Michael Mccarthy Date of Death: 20-Oct-1875
    Age: 67 Parish / District: BRUFF
    Address: Knockaney County: Co. Limerick
    Status: Married Denomination: Civil Record
    Occupation: BLACKSMITH Sex: Male

    Graveyard Informant
    Graveyard: Relationship: Not Recorded
    Parish: Name: Daniel Mccarthy
    County: Address: As Above

    Notes:
    PERITONITIS 4 DAYS - CERTIFIED
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    Ancestry.com
    Name: Daniel Mccarthy
    [Daniel Mc Carthy]
    Age: 45
    Birth Date: Apr 1855
    Birthplace: Ireland
    Home in 1900: Springfield Ward 5, Hampden, Massachusetts
    Ward of City: 5
    Street: Hancock
    House Number: 148
    Sheet Number: 20
    Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 384
    Family Number: 459
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Immigration Year: 1880
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Ellen Mccarthy
    Marriage Year: 1876
    Father's Birthplace: Ireland
    Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
    Years in US: 20
    Naturalization: Na
    Occupation: Blacksmith
    Months not employed: 0
    Can Read: Yes
    Can Write: Yes
    Can Speak English: Yes
    House Owned or Rented: R
    Farm or House: H
    Neighbors:

    Household Members: Name Age
    Daniel Mccarthy
    45
    Ellen Mccarthy
    44
    Mary A Mccarthy
    22
    Lenora J Mccarthy
    20
    Helenor G Mccarthy
    19
    Daniel J Mccarthy
    15
    James J Mccarthy
    15

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 17th Jul 2018, 07:56PM
  • I am a decendant of Mortimer Hishon and live in Invercargill New Zealand. There were posts about the Hishons in 2017 by Murray C . How can we contact you ?

    Wednesday 18th Jul 2018, 09:43AM
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    Mary, I am overwhelmed!  I know many of my relatives are from Ireland but this is the first confirmation of an actual place. I can’t thank you enough. It feels nice to know where your family are from. I was just in Limerick County last week which is what prompted me to finally make contact. Many many thanks. My DNA is at Ancestry and WikiTree.     Would be great if we have a connection.  The one connection I found was a family that moved to Australiain the 1800s.  Father was Patrick Murphy but the ages were not right...maybe an uncle or older brother.  Best wishes!

    Sue

     

     

     

    Ostinato

    Wednesday 18th Jul 2018, 07:50PM
  • Sue,

    I am on Ancestry. Do you have a tree? Is there a name/ user name I can check on to see if we have a DNA connection?

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Wednesday 18th Jul 2018, 08:09PM
  • Yes! My tree is Tough Family Tree. DNA is attached to svostinato. Their should be two sets managed by that listing, a 3rd family member, 1st cousin, is listed under Zippilli49 that should also be a McCarthy match. Let me know if you can’t locate. I’m on a sailboat in the Med so my WiFi is a bit sketchy.  I tried to find the contact from Australia for you too but I will need better WiFi.  

    Sue

     

    Ostinato

    Thursday 19th Jul 2018, 08:08PM
  • Sue,
    I found your tree and I do not connect to your DNA. I did not find Zippilli49. My user name is MaryTV. Enjoy your sailing trip.
    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Friday 20th Jul 2018, 06:21PM
  • Thanks for trying. I tried a search of my cousin and came up empty too. It would of been great to connect. I found the user name for the Australian family from a Limerick Co ,  Lindamask  You might want to give her a try too.  I’m looking forward to when I can get active in my search again.  I hope we will touch base again  thanks again

    !

     

    Ostinato

    Saturday 21st Jul 2018, 03:42PM
  • I wonder if our families are related. My GG grandparents were Jeremiah Murphy and Mary McCarthy and family lore has it that they were 1st cousins: his mother was Mary McCarthy and father was possibly Edmond Murphy. Edmond came from County Limerick, Kileedy Parish, Darrery/Dairbhre Townland.

    Jeremiah was born in 1825 or 1826 in Kileedy, County Limerick. His wife Mary McCarthy was probably born in Kanturk, County Cork in 1826. They married in Canada in 1850. My G Grandmother, Ellen Murphy, was born on April 4, 1850 in Ontario Canada.

    Jeremiah, his 8 brothers, and his mother, Mary, emigrated to Canada following the death of his father Edmond Murphy. They all came to Wisconsin and settled in the Pine Bluff area, many on farms near each other.

    I have come across the name Hanora several time in my sporadic genealogy searches.

    LindaMadison

    Thursday 9th Aug 2018, 02:49PM
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    Hi Linda. Thanks for your reply. I have seen Jermiah and wife Mary several times in my research of my dna matches. I have not figured out if Mary might be Michael McCarthy’s sister or if it’s through the Murphy side. Since his 8 brothers went with him to Canada that seems like it might be a dead end. Michael McCarthy’s son, Daniel McCarthy and his wife Ellen Murphy came directly to Massachusetts from Ireland around 1879.  Are you listed on Ancestry or WikiTree?

    Sue

    Ostinato

    Friday 10th Aug 2018, 08:11PM

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