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Hi,

I understand my Rawleigh family came from Rawleighstown, Limerick and might have eventually come to Knockainey. Some of the family is buried at Old Knockainey Cemetery. Rawleighstown was part of Cahercorney Parish, which is not listed on Ireland XO. I know Lough Gur is part of Knockainey Parish is Rawleighstown as well? I am trying to find out what happened to the Rawleigh family after Cromwell took over their land during his siege (1649-1652) and gave it to the Croker family. Any suggestions where I might find information.

Also, in a history book I found the Rawleigh family mentioned as being connected to John Brown, Master of Awney's family. I am trying to find out which of John's daughters (name) married a Raleigh and what his name was. What happened to this couple? It looks like (based on the info below) they had a son James and a grandson Walter?

> John Browne, or Brown,
> of Awney, Co.Limerick.
> "Awney" (or Any, Anye) is the old name for the area of Knockainy and Hospital, E Co.Limerick (see map and map).
> He was an ally of the rebel 14th Earl of Desmond.
> He was "Master of Awney" as at 1568, when the imprisoned Earl of Desmond wrote to him.
> He mar Catharine O'Ryan [or Katherine, dau of Dermod O'Ryan, or Dermot, of Sullaghode, Co.Tipperary].
> He was killed 1580 by Sir Thomas Norris.
> A letter of 17 Aug 1580 describes him as the "wisest of all Desmond's councillors".
> John and Catharine had issue:
>
>
> The seventh daughter of John Brown Master of Awney and
> Katherine O Ryan mentioned at page 69 married * * * *
> Rawleigh of Rawleighstown in the County Lymerick and
> had a daughter married to Lieutenant Rutlidge, father of
> Joan Rutlidge who was the wife of old Edward Lacy of
> Rathcahill. The eighth daughter of said John Brown
>
>
> The ninth daughter of John Brown Master
> of Awney and Katherine O'Ryan was married to * * * *
> Cushin or Cushinagh of the County Cork and one of
> his daughters was mother of Nagle of Monanimy, and
> another daughter of his was mother of James Rawleigh
> father of Walter Rawleigh the Counsellor.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would appreciate any assistance provided.
Mary

MaryTV

Tuesday 21st February 2017, 02:33PM

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  • Dear Mary:

    Many thanks for your query to Ireland Reaching Out.

    You might consider looking at a number of resources for tracking the Rawleigh family who lived in Rawleighstown.

    There are a large number of Rawleigh (with variants) families who are listed in County Limerick in the Roots Ireland database.

    In addition, the Tithe Applotment Books also listed 7 Rawleigh members who were living in the Knockainey area in 1833.

    Griffith's Valuation might be another resource for you to look at the Rawleigh members who remained in the area.  This Valuation was completed in County Limerick in 1852.    It is available at the following link:

    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/.

    Further, local histories and headstone inscriptions (which I note you have checked) are invaluable for trying to trace families before 1800 in particular.

    If you have any further questions, please contact us. 

     

    Kind regards,

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Friday 24th February 2017, 09:10PM
  • Jane,

    Thank you for youe reply.

    Mary

    MaryTV

    Friday 24th February 2017, 11:25PM
  • Hi Mary are you still seeking information?

    John17

    Tuesday 24th November 2020, 11:21PM
  • John,
    Yes, I continue to try to figure out how my family who was in Rawleighstown ended up in Old Knockainey Cemetery with the grave sites referencing Mough. Ultimately, my family resided in Ballyholohan/ Drumcomogue, Emly, Tipperary. The last person I know buried in Old Knockainey in an unmarked grave was my Great Uncle Jack Raleigh in 1969. Based on DNA, obituaries, and other research, I know I am connected to other Raleigh families in Tipperary/ Limerick. I assume records, if they existed, would show they all connect to Rawleighstown.
    John, what is your interest?

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Wednesday 25th November 2020, 02:42AM
  • Hi Mary

    In the churchyard of Patrickswell Church near Lough Gur there is a grave to Elizabeth Raleigh of Raleighstown who died in 1841 aged just 13.

    John17

    Wednesday 25th November 2020, 07:31PM
  • John,

    Thank you I am aware of that gravesite but do not know how it connects to my family. Also in the book “The Farm by Lough Gur” by Mary Carbery, it is noted Michael O'Brien marries Johanna Purcell around 1800s and her mother was a Raleigh from Raleighstown. I have not read the book been have been told this. Not sure how she connects??

    I have a lot of info but nothing to bring it all together.

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Thursday 26th November 2020, 02:48AM
  • John,

    Is this the grave you mentioned or is there another one?

    LI-LGTN-0068
    Record Date:
    19 April 2012
    Graveyard:
    New Church Lough Gur
    Exact wording of epitaph:

    In this humble grave
    doth lie the remains
    of Eliza Raleigh of
    Raleighstown died
    29 May 1852 aged 13
    May her soul rest in
    Peace

    Take care- Mary

    MaryTV

    Thursday 26th November 2020, 12:27PM
  • Hi Mary

    My sincere apologies! Yes that Raleigh grave is in New Church but the grave in Patrickswell churchyard I referred to actually is the grave of the Michael O'Brien that you mentioned. He and his daughter Eliza both died in 1841.
    Are you related to the O'Briens?

    John17

    Thursday 26th November 2020, 01:41PM
  • Exact wording of epitaph: 

    IN ALL THY WORKS REMEMBER THY LAST END
    AND THOU SHALT NEVER SIN
    ECCLES LASTICUS
    HERE ARE INTERRED THE REMAINS OF JOHANA THE
    BELOVED WIFE OF MICHAEL O'BRIEN, LOUGH GUR
    AND ALSO HIS DAUGHTER ELIZA, WHO BOTH
    DEPARTED THIS LIFE THE YEAR 1841
    MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON THEM

    Memorial Type: 

    Wall or mural tablet

    John17

    Thursday 26th November 2020, 01:44PM
  • John,
    I connect through marriage to several O'Brien families. A couple of years ago a descendant of the O'Brien family from Lough Gur and I tried to figure out if we connected through our Purcell families (we gave up trying to figure out our Rawleighs of Rawleighstown family) but never found a connection. My Great Grandmother was Ann Purcell, born in Knocklara, Limerick, to William Purcell of Monemore, Emly and Elizabeth Lane. I understand the family was originally from Loughmore, Tipperary. She married Patrick Raleigh of Drumcomogue, Emly, Tipperary.

    I believe if we had records from 1600 and 1700 we all would know our relationships.

    Are you part of the O'Brien family from Lough Gur or do you connect to the Raleighs or neither?

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Thursday 26th November 2020, 08:34PM
  • Hi Mary

    I am no relation to either family but have an interest in local history. I do know a descendant of the O'Briens who I can put you in touch with. Who was the descendant you spoke with? Just so that I am not directing you to that same person again?

    John17

    Friday 27th November 2020, 10:48AM
  • John,
    The O'Brien descendant I was in touch lives in Australia. My focus is Raleighs, Rawleighstown, and Old Knockainey Cemetery. If they can assist me in my research, I would appreciate the contact.

    Over the years, I have found sites on the internet focusing on the area, primarily the area around Rawleighstown. I would be happy to share if you feel comfotable providing an email account. If you have an account with Ancestry.com, my user name is MaryTV.

    I have found the below site interesting because it covers who hand land before Cromwell and who took it over.

    http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/BooksJournals/TheCromwel...

    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Friday 27th November 2020, 12:35PM
  • Hi Mary

    My email address is johnocarroll0@gmail.com.

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Best regards
    John

    John17

    Saturday 28th November 2020, 11:58AM