Hello, just discovered two additional great uncles I didn't now existed, don't know anything about them. Any help would be appreciated.
This is the family of Michael Moyna (b.@1818), married to Ann McGirr (b@1831). They lived in Augher and had a store on Main street, which was "burglerd" one time. We thought they had 4 kids, Marianne (b.1856); Charles Edward (b.1858-my ancestor); Bernard (b. 1861); and Margaret (b.1867). Except for Bernard, we know where each of these siblings lived and died (but not burial place for Bernard, or the sisters, should be Blackrock, C.Louth).
Having discovered a notice in the Dundalk Democrat about Margaret's death in 1912, we now know she had two other brothers, James and Patrick. These are a total mystery. We have researched the Catholic Baptisms in Tyrone, Cogher Parish from 1856 to 1881, so these two brothers must have been born earlier than 1856, or later than 1881. We have looked at all PRONI death records (Michael and the two daughers appear there). We have the 1901 census of Dundalk, Anne and her two daughters living in Blackrock.
Anne McGirr appears to have been related to a Bernard McGirr, who owned the store next to Michael in Augher. Bernard was godfather to one of Michael and Anne's children.
Information that would be extremely helpful would be anything relating to Michael Moyna, his marriage to Anne, and the birth of their two other sons, James and Patrick. We believe the family lived in Augher, because Michael died there. Perhaps he was married before Anne to someone else?
Thank you very much for any leads,
NMoyna
Sunday 20th Apr 2014, 04:31PM
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N. Moyna:
I located an 1871 civil birth index record for a Patrick Moyna in the Clogher registration district. (There was also an 1878 record). For James Moyna I located an 1869 record ( There were also an 1871, 1879 and 1883 records for a James Moyna in Clogher). To get copies of birth records, you would have to contact the General Register Office. Copies cost around 4 euros. I provided instuctions for the process below the two index records. If you think the other records are likely, let me know and I will send the index records.
Roger McDonnell
First Name Patrick Last Name Moyna Year 1871 Registered Quarter/Year 1871 Registration District Clogher Volume 18 Page 140 First Name James Last Name Moyna Year 1869 Registered Quarter/Year 1869 Registration District Clogher Volume 3 Page 149 Go to this link http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx In the middle of the page there are links for birth, marriage or death certificates. Hit the link for the form you want. You will likely get a screen asking for a User Name and Password. (This is a program bug that the GRO has to correct). Hit cancel and the appropriate form should come up. Print the form and complete the requested information. Also provide the information from the index record--quarter/year of the event, registration district and the volume and page number where the event is recorded. Make sure you ask for a copy which costs around 4 euros. ( A cert costs closer to 20 euros). You can also ask the GRO to e-mail the copy back to you.
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Sunday 20th Apr 2014, 08:36PM -
Thank you Castlemore Roscommon, it's wonderful to receive a reply so soon.
These names you found, I believe correspond to the entries I saw in rootsiredland.ie, and the dates match civil birth records that appear in their website (didn't pay to see them yet). However, with the very precise information you sent, I will try to request them from the GRO, probably cheaper than rootsireland. My grandpa Charles appears in rootsireland, and also in Baptisms 1825-1835 for Clogher, so it is possible these are his brothers.
Again,a million thanks for taking the time to look these up, I will try to figure out which would be the most likely year of birth and start with those.
Sunday 20th Apr 2014, 09:02PM