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Carroll/O'Carroll's County Louth

Looking to find where my great-grandfather William Joseph Carroll born on 6 Jun 1848 or 1850 was born.  My Great Aunt, his grand-daughter, told me in 1979 via a letter that her grandfather was from County Louth.  I was young then and I question now what did that mean?  Was he born in County Louth?  Was he from Louth, County Louth? Or did he possibly immigrate from County Louth and was from somewhere else?  His son, William Joseph Carroll (same name), told me that his father, the above William was born in Ireland, making my Grandfather 1st generation American born. I always thought that meant that both William's were in America and no one else before them.  Through census records I have uncovered that the father and the grandfather of Wm. J. Carroll b. 1848 or 1850 have also come to America as well as several siblings of the 1848 born Wm.  I only now assume that they came from Louth like William, but they could have come from somewhere else in Ireland.  The elder Wm.'s father was Nicholas (James?) Carroll born about 1815.  He was married to Catherine (Kate) McKenna b. abt. 1822 in Ireland, d. 3 Feb 1900 in Phila., PA, USA.  Since Wm. was born in Ireland, they had to marry in Ireland as well.  I have the following children for Nicholas and Catherine:  Michael J. Carroll b. abt. 1846- d.1893 b. Ireland, d. PA, USA; Patrick Henry Carroll b. May 1846 -1918 (twin of Michael or close in age?) b. Ireland, d. Atlantic City, NJ, USA; William Joseph Carroll (my great) b.6 Jun 1848 or 1850 Louth?, Ireland, d. Philadelphia, PA, USA; Rosana or Rose Anna Carroll b. PA, USA 1853, d. possibly in Beverly, Burlington, NJ, USA after 1950; John Carroll b. & d. Phila., PA, USA b. 29 Jan 1854, d. 18 Aug 1862; Nicholas James Carroll b. & d. Phila., PA, USA, b. 26 Oct 1855, d. 5 Jan 1896; James Nicholas Carroll b. & d. Phila., PA, USA, b. 25 Feb 1858, d. 8 Dec 1925; Thomas Henry Carroll b. & d. Phila., PA, USA, b. 29 May 1860, d. 17 Jan 1939; Mary Jane Carroll b. 1 Sep 1863 Phila., PA, USA, d. unknown.  She was still living in the 1930 US census for Phila.  She was widowed by then, her husband being Thomas Augustus Murphy 1864-1926.  I do  not know if there were any more children born in Ireland or even born in the US that mayhave died young.  The family name was O'Carroll, but at what time, I do not know.  Nicholas J. Carroll's father, John Carroll came to the USA.  I have his death info.  Died 21 Oct 1858 Phila., PA, USA.  His only other child that I know of besides Nicholas is John Carroll b. Sep 1835 in Ireland and D. 31 Mar 1910 in New York, NY, USA.  County Armagh is a possible birth location for the Patriarch, John.  The family was Roman Catholic and many of the men were blacksmiths, horseshoers or jewelers.  I do have spouse information on the above, but feel this is getting too long already so I'll wait until someone asks specific questions to furnish that information.  I also have photos of Wm. J., Patrick Henry and Thomas Henry.  The majority of the family settled in Philadelphia, PA, USA.  My dad, another Wm. J. Carroll was born & died in Phila.  I also was born in Phila.  Any information would be so welcomed.  When I search Louth there are just too many Carroll's with the same first names.  It is so overwhelming and I'm not sure if I have the correct people.  I do have as many documents that I can find on the US side, (been looking since 1979) but nothing specifies the exact location in ireland, not even marriage documents.  Thank You so much for having a site like this, Pat (Patricia) Carroll Bennett

Patricia Carroll-Bennett

Wednesday 26th October 2016, 10:20PM

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  • Pat:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    Roots Ireland had the baptismal record for William and Patrick. See transcriptions below. The RC parish was Togher. The family lived in Drumcar townland in Drumcar civil parish, The Togher records go back to 1791. You may want to get a short-term subscription and search for more of your Carroll ancestors. Some of William's siblings could have been born in America or possibly Catherine was shown as Catherine Carroll on the baptismal record. ( I searched under McKenna).

    Roger McDonnell

    Name:Wm CarrollDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:06-Jun-1848Address:DrumcarParish/District:TOGHERGender:UnknownCountyCo. Louth
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Nichl CarrollMother:Catty McKennaOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Pat Fuord Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary McKenna 

    Name:Pat CarrollDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:21-Feb-1847Address:DrumcarParish/District:TOGHERGender:UnknownCountyCo. Louth
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Nicholas CarrollMother:Cath McKennaOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:John Markey Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Bess Fuord 

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Wednesday 26th October 2016, 10:48PM
  • Roger,

    I cannot believe you have found my great grandfather's birth record as well as one of his brother's.  I am in absolute awe.  So many places in Louth swirled through my mind wondering if one of them could be the place and you have found it so quickly.  I stopped after I posted my information to make dinner.  We ate, I cleaned up & came back to the computer to make sure I didn't make any mistakes and you had already replied with the records. Thank you , thank you, thank you, so very much!  I will most definitely do what you suggest.  I had never used Roots Ireland because I wasn't sure I had the correct dates.  I've used Ancestry since their inception in 1996.  My sister & I want to come to Ireland but had no idea where to visit.  I will inquire about other ancestors on the proper post and hopefully will have more to go on.  I can't thank you enough.

    One more question:  If there were any relatives who stayed back in Ireland, they can see the posts and possibly get in touch, is that correct?  And if so, should I add photos of William's brothers?  Do I do that right here or go to the mesage board & do it?

    Pat Carroll Bennett

    Patricia Carroll-Bennett

    Thursday 27th October 2016, 12:40AM
  • Roger,

    I'm sorry if I post a reply twice.  I had several telephone calls before I was finished and I can't tell by looking at the screen if it's been posted or not?  I'd rather post it twice then not have it posted at all and you don't know that I recieved your reply and am estatic.  

    Thank You Again,

    Pat Carroll Bennett

    Patricia Carroll-Bennett

    Thursday 27th October 2016, 01:15AM
  • Pat:

    Glad to assist. I responded on your other post and indicated that the online phone book did not show any Carrolls near Drumcar but that I asked an associate in Louth if he had any comments or insights.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon

    Thursday 27th October 2016, 08:17PM