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I am trying to find records for the Duffy Family who lived in Cloonlara, Swinford, Kilconduff. My great grandmother was Catherine Duffy Durcan. Per a RootsIreland record, when she married Thomas Durcan of Cuilmore in 1891, her address was Cloonlara, her father’s name was James, and witness was Ellen Duffy. Her death record found on Ancestry and IrishGenealogy shows her dying in Cuilmore in 1897 at age 33. I am trying to find her birth record (I have searched Ancertry, RootsIreland, Irish Genealogy, and NLI without success.). Some of her children’s birth records found on RootsIreland identify Mary Duffy as their grandmother. Some of their sponsors were Bridget Duffy, Timothy Duffy, James Duffy, and Patrick Duffy.

I have found records for a Mary Duffy (maiden Name) and James Duffys’ children born in Cloonlara, with the exception of Catherine, on FamilySearch and RootsIreland. They had at least five children- Catherine (abt. 1864?, no Catherine next to James’ name on IrishGenealogy, Civil Records), James (1864- ), Thomas (1866- 1931), Bridget (1869- ), and Timothy (1871- ).

In addition to Catherine’s birth record, I am looking for James and Marys’ marriage record. I assume they were married around 1864. I have tried Ancestry, RootsIreland, Family Search, NLI, and IrishGenealogy. Since their first son was James, James’ father might be James. I think their daughter Bridget married Peter Moore in 1896 and they were living with her in Cloonlara per the 1901 census. James was 78 and Mary was 72. James died before the 1911 census. Per IrishGenealogy, Mary died in 1916.

Per the Griffith Valuation there was a James Duffy leasing land in Swinford. I am not sue if this is the sames James. My AncestryDNA results show I might be connected to the Duffys in Kilmovee but I do not know how.

Thank you for any help you can provide in tracking down these records or any information you might have on this family.
Mary

MaryTV

Friday 6th January 2017, 05:28PM

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  • Mary:

    I found an 1856 marriage record in Kilmovee for a James Duffy to a Mary Duffy. Kilmovee is loaded with Duffys so this may be another couple. My own Duffys are also from Kilmovee (Magheraboy) and my great-grandmother was Mary Duffy (1858-1939).

    I would search both the Swinford and Kilmovee parish registers to see if you can locate Catherine. Sometimes records are missed in transcription

    http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0133

    http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0137

    Roger McDonnell

    Date of Marriage:01-Feb-1856
    Parish / District:Kilmovee RC parish
    County:Co. Mayo
    Husband
    WifeName:JamesDuffy
    MaryDuffyAddress:

    Witnesses:

    Name:JohnDuffy
    BridgetHigginsAddress:

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 6th January 2017, 06:31PM
  • Roger,

    Thank you for responding back. I had previously found the 1856 marriage record for James and Mary Duffy of Kilmovee. I posted a message on Ancestry.com about it and discovered, unfortunately, they were not my James and Mary.

    I appreciate your assistance. Maybe, we are distant relatives.

    Mary

    MaryTV

    Saturday 7th January 2017, 12:03PM
  • Do you think it's possible that the Duffy's initially were from Kilmovee parish and moved to Kilconduff?  They are right next to each other.

    I did find a Catherine Duffy baptized Oct 12, 1865 in Kilmovee Parish.  Her parents were James Duffy and Mary Rush.  The sponsors were John Rush and Hanoria Duffy.  They lived in the Townland of Skeheen.  There is a whole family of Duffy's in that same town in Griffith's (Philip, Michael, Anthony, James, Bridget, John, Joseph, Thomas, Matthew, and Mary.  Also a John Rush).

    I could not find any Catherine Duffy in Kilconduff Parish baptisms.  So, either she wasn't baptized (which does happen) or she was born in another parish.

    My Devaney ancestors kept moving back and forth between Drumshinnagh and Culmore.  

    Good Luck!

    Debbie

    dgillis

    Saturday 7th January 2017, 09:13PM
  • Debbie:

    Yes it is possible that they moved north to Swinford. My great-great grandparents in Kilmovee were James Duffy and Anne Rush!  I also tested my DNA with Ancestry and Family Tree DNA. You may want to go to Gedmatch www.gedmatch.com and upload your DNA data from Ancestry. Gedmatch is a volunteer run site where you can upload your DNA data and see if you macth someone who tested with another company e.g. Family Tree or 23 and Me.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 8th January 2017, 02:45PM
  • Debbie and Roger,

    Thank you for your responses. I have found on AncestryDNA I am 4-6 cousins with Duffys from Kilmovee. We just don't know how we connect. I have also uploaded my results to gedmatch and Family Tree DNA.

    I have not ruled out that Mary, John or both are from Kilmovee. I just have not found their records in Kilconduff or Kilmovee yet.

    Mary's maiden name was Duffy; so the Mary Rush connection is not going to work. There are a number entries in Kilconduff's Parish Registration that are too dark to read; my Catherine Duffy about 1864 might be one of them.

    I appreciate your suggestions and will continue to scan the parish registries, as well as, figure out my DNA matches. I have limited knowledge of these two parishes and your thoughts are helpful.

    Mary

     

    MaryTV

    Sunday 8th January 2017, 08:08PM
  • Hi, 

    It is some time since the posts above but I hope someone is still using this website which I have just discovered.  

     

    We have a Brigid Duffy, born Feb 1869, who married my granduncle Peter Moore in Cloonlara in 1896.   They lived there all their lives having at least 6 children.  A baby Peter died young as well as a Anne who died of bronchitis.  The 1901 Census shows that they were living with her parents, James and Mary Duffy aged respectively 78 and 72..  Brigid lived to be 93 and they are both buried here in Swinford where I live.  

    Are you using Familysearch website?  I have a partial family tree there for the Moore/Durkan family which should be accessible for you.  Have a look and let me know please if that is the same Brigid Duffy?  

     

     

     

     

     

    ElizM

    Monday 17th September 2018, 05:12PM

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  • I think we are talking about the same Duffy family. Where is Fermanagh? My research shows most of Mary and James' children born in Cloonlara- Catherine (abt.1864 no record-1897), James (1864), Thomas (1866-1931 in Chicago), Patrick (1867 lived in Cloonlara), Bridget (1869-1962 lived in Cloonlara), and Timothy (1871). In my research, I did not find an Ann or Mary.

    Were there two Duffy families living in Cloonlara with parents Mary Duffy and James Duffy?

    I have been searching for a family connection and would appreciate discussing more about the Duffys of Cloonlara.

    Mary

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 18th September 2018, 11:27AM
  • I have pulled records on RootsIreland for most of James and Marys’ children. If you would like me to send. Should I use the Email associated with your tree? This is what I definitely know about Catherine Duffy’s family.
    Date of Marriage: 23-Jan-1891
    Parish / District: SWINFORD DISTRICT County: MAYO

    Husband Wife
    Name: Thomas Durcan Catherine Duffy
    Address: Cuilmore Cloonlara
    Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
    Occupation: FARMER FARMER
    Age: F F
    Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)

    Husband's Father Wife's Father
    Name: John Durcan James Duffy
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation: FARMER DECEASED FARMER

    Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
    Name:
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Witness 1 Witness 2
    Name: Michael Durkan Ellen Duffy
    Address:

    Notes:
    MARRIED IN SWINFORD CHURCH BY JAMES CULLEN C.C.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    MY GRANDFATHER
    Name: Patrick Durcan Date of Birth: 09-Dec-1891
    Date of Baptism: 12-Dec-1891
    Address: Cuilmore Parish/District: KILCONDUFF/SWINFORD
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durcan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Timothy Duffy Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Bridget Duffy
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Name: Michael Durcan Date of Birth: 23-Aug-1893
    Date of Baptism: 26-Aug-1893
    Address: Culmore Parish/District: KILCONDUFF/SWINFORD
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durcan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Thomas Durcan Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Mary Durcan
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Name: Thomas Durcan Date of Birth: 01-Jul-1895
    Date of Baptism: 06-Jul-1895
    Address: Cuilmore Parish/District: KILCONDUFF/SWINFORD
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durcan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: James Duffy Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Mary Durkan

    Notes:
    --

    Name: Thomas Durkan Date of Birth: 08-Jul-1895
    Registration Date: 22-Aug-1895
    Address: Cuilmore Parish/District: SWINFORD DISTRICT
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durkan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation: Farmer

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:

    Notes:
    MARY DUFFY, GRANDMOTHER, CLOONLARA, PRESENT AT THE BIRTH, INFORMANT.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Name: John Durkan Date of Birth: 07-May-1897
    Date of Baptism: 09-May-1897
    Address: Culmore Fair Parish/District: KILCONDUFF/SWINFORD
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durkan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Patrick Duffy Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Margt Gallagher

    Notes:
    MARRIED 21.9.54 TO JOS. WALSH IN ST. LAWRENCES WEEMAWKEN N.J. U.S.A.

    Name: John Durkan Date of Birth: 07-May-1897
    Registration Date: 05-Jul-1897
    Address: Cuilmore Parish/District: SWINFORD DISTRICT
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Father: Thomas Durkan Mother: Catherine Duffy
    Occupation: Landholder

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:

    Notes:
    MARY DUFFY, GRANDMOTHER, CLOONLARA, PRESENT AT THE BIRTH, INFORMANT.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    I have a DNA connection to Patrick Duffy through his descendants. I don’t think there is a birth record for Patrick but think he is Catherine’s brother.
    Date of Marriage: 19-Mar-1892
    Parish / District: LOWPARK DISTRICT County: MAYO

    Husband Wife
    Name: Patrick Duffy Mary Halligan
    Address: Cloonlara Kilaturley
    Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
    Occupation: FARMER
    Age: F F
    Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)

    Husband's Father Wife's Father
    Name: James Duffy James Halligan
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation: FARMER FARMER

    Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
    Name:
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Witness 1 Witness 2
    Name: Martin Tunney Mary Duffy
    Address:

    Notes:
    MARRIED IN KILBEAGH CHURCH BY THOMAS LOFTUS P.P.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Thomas was Catherine Duffy Durcan’s brother. He sponsored my grandfather, Patrick Edward Durkin, when he came to America. Thomas’ daughter Mary (Mamie) was my mother’s and mine godmother. On Thomas’ death record Mary and James Duffy are identified.
    Date of Marriage: 19-Mar-1892
    Parish / District: LOWPARK DISTRICT County: MAYO

    Husband Wife
    Name: Patrick Duffy Mary Halligan
    Address: Cloonlara Kilaturley
    Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
    Occupation: FARMER
    Age: F F
    Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)

    Husband's Father Wife's Father
    Name: James Duffy James Halligan
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation: FARMER FARMER

    Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
    Name:
    Address:
    Denomination:
    Occupation:

    Witness 1 Witness 2
    Name: Martin Tunney Mary Duffy
    Address:

    Notes:
    MARRIED IN KILBEAGH CHURCH BY THOMAS LOFTUS P.P.

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 18th September 2018, 06:25PM
  • I apologize, I sent the wrong record.
    Name: Thomas Duffy Date of Birth:
    Date of Baptism: 28-Oct-1866
    Address: Cloonlara Parish/District: KILCONDUFF/SWINFORD
    Gender: Male County MAYO
    Denomination: Roman Catholic
    Father: James Duffy Mother: Mary Duffy
    Occupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: John Ward
    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Mary Duffy

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 18th September 2018, 07:53PM
  • Hi and thank you for response.  All I can say for now is that yes there are at least two Duffy families in Cloonlara.  

    Will have to go into the information you posted in greater detail, but first impression is that Peter Moore's wife Brigid is the daughter of your James - see the attached cutouts from the civil register where the father of the bride and groom are mentioned.  Death record for Brigid also added.  Am a bit puzzled by the name present at the death so will try to sort that out.  

    The Mary and Anne that I mentioned would have been the children of Peter and Brigid so registered as Moore.

    I have some hints as to the whereabouts of some of the gll randchildren of Peter and Brigid which I hope to follow up in the coming months.  

    Fermanagh is within the six counties of Northern Ireland (the bit that sill belongs to the UK).  When I look up the origins of the Moore name it seems that a lot of them originated in the north of Ireland.  

    There are also connections on my mother's side to Halligans of Killathurly, one of whom I am in touch with who lives in Chicago.  I have no record of any of Peter and Brigid's children going to America.  My relations/ancestors that I am searching for over there would be mainly on my mother's side.  

    I have to leave the ancestors now and deal with the living as we are having a fierce storm here in the west of Ireland which is very distrubing since it is still only September!   Whereabouts are you living? 

    Best wishes, 

    Yes any info or questions you have can be sent to the email. Mooreeliz@gmail.com

     

     

     

     

    ElizM

    Wednesday 19th September 2018, 11:26AM

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  • Forgot to mention that yes there are lots of Durkans on Cortoon/Maudogue/Lowpark which is just past Cloonlara, between Swinford and Charlestown (which was not called Charlestown way back if you are looking for people in that are you need to look up Kilbeagh parish)  

    Here is a map with the counties

    ElizM

    Wednesday 19th September 2018, 11:34AM

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