Judge and Kelly/Kelley ancestors of Kilfian Parish

RunswithScissors:

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We have a parish liaison in Moygawnagh parish. I will e-mail him about your message.

Roger McDonnell

Hi Roger & Runswithscissors 

I'm not familiar with those surnames in that Townland in Griffiths valuation or since, but there are of both names in Kilfian parish  

Ancestry & findmypast can be checked for surnames in Kilfian parish (where the townland lies) & try Moygawnagh / Moygownagh parish as sometimes the townland was included in this parish in some records  alternatively try the nli.ie marriage and baptism records for the parish. Track the surnames down through the generations is an option  

Also try goldenlangan for the Kilfian graveyard records. 

Askaboutireland and the nationalarchives.ie hold valuation c1856 & tithe (c1835) respectively  

What is the record for your ancestors  ? Were they emigrants? 

L

Hi,

There are a lot of Kelley's but no Judge's at the time of Griffiths Valuation in the mid-1850s, in Moygawnagh.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/mayo/moygawnagh.php

Kelly Anthony Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Edward Tawnywaddyduff Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Hugh Ballyglass Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Hugh Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Hugh Shanvodinnaun Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly John Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Mary Calliaghadoo Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Mary Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Mary Forrew Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Mary Tawnywaddyduff Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Michael Cloonaghmore Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Michael Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Patrick Cloonaghmore Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Patrick Killeennashask Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Patrick Tawnywaddyduff Moygawnagh Mayo
Kelly Thomas Drumnanangle Moygawnagh Mayo'

There's one Judge and some Kelly's in Kilfian on Griffiths Valuation

Judge Thomas Rathnamagh Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Anthony Glenedagh, Eighter Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Bryan Cloonkee Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Hugh Cloonskeagh Kilfian Mayo
Kelly John Glenedagh, Eighter Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Michael Barranarran, Upper Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Peter Kincon Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Thomas Kincon Kilfian Mayo
Kelly Winifred Barranarran, Upper Kilfian Mayo

Parish records covering both Parishes are here: http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0749

Best bet is to then use the 1901 & 1911 census to see if any Kelley's / Judge's remained in the area.  You can also look for your ancestors in the Tithe Records from the early 1800s here: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/

Let me know if you have questions - I have ancestors from Kincon.

Here's Doonanroo townland in the tithes.  Gardiner was one of the local landlords, who was notorious for evicting tennants.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?…

I know that my ancestors emigrated to Canada in 1827. What I don't know is what family (parents, siblings, cousins) they may have left behind. Thanks to all for your suggestions as to how to explore this question further.

Sally

In the tithe books the Kellys in Drumanangle are not related to Kellys in Kilfian. But in recent years Kellys from Glenedagh actually moved to Drumanangle so the kellys there now are originally from near Doonanarroo. Confused?! Well also Doonanaroo is adjacent to Calliaghadoo and that Kelly is a good candidate to chase up. Part of the Doonanaroo townland adjacent is actually im Moygownagh catholic parish. 

However the Great Famine brought huge changes to the countryside and there was much relocation of tenures thus your ancestors people may have moved during this time , if indeed they didn't die or emigrate. Bit as your ancestors emigrated in 1827 they were likely of the farming class which suffered less than the poor cottiers & labourers almost wiped out during the Great Famine  and thus more likely to have relations who lived. 

I'm afraid this is all supposition but I would look at the records for the Kellys in Calliaghadoo as being a likely start  

the Kellys in calliaghadoo , thomas and mary were my great great grandparents, form what i know both died there,  ther children michael and bridget went to america , whilst sara eve , my great grandmother mother moved to Birmingham , where she lived with my great grandfather  john harris until she died.in 1959, leaving 2 childrem agnes and ernest ( my grandfather )