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I have at least two ancestors who lived in or near Clontuskert and possibly Cloontuskert earlier: John Mullery born around 1800 and his son Peter born around 1827. They were Roman Catholic. I would like to confirm that they did live in that area through church records, but I do not know what Catholic churches existed in the area in the mid-19th century and how to obtain those records. Peter left Ireland in 1846 and John died in Galway City in the 1870s.

shadow21084

Monday 20th Feb 2012, 04:41PM

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  • Hi there,

    Thank you very much for your query to Ireland Reaching Out. You should check the spelling of the documents you are searching. I know of some families in County Roscommon who spell their name 'Mulry'. Do please check all the variant spellings, as sometimes documents were written incorrectly.

    Cloontuskert is in east County Roscommon. If you think there is a connection to this parish, then please post your message on the parish profile page here: http://www.irelandxo.com/group/cloontuskert-roscommon

    You should try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) for information about them in the area. These give details of the land occupation and valuations for individual holdings prior to the Great Famine.

    Best of luck in your reseach!

    Sinead Cooney

     

    Tuesday 21st Feb 2012, 12:59PM
  • Hi Sinead,

    Thank you for your advice. In some records my family members have a surname of Mulry and in others it is Mullery. When my 3rd great-grandfather Peter Mullery emigrated to England his English marriage certificate listed his surname as Mouldray so there are some very odd variant spellings. Another problem I have had with variant spellings is that the Mullery, Mulray, and Mulroy families all tended to use the Mulry spelling in the 19th century despite the fact that they are completely different families.

    I have used the Tithe Applotment Books and Griffiths Valuation, which is the reason why I know that John was a tenant farmer in County Galway (Ballinasloe, Clontuskert, Killallaghtan, Kellys Grove, Killosolan, and Mountbellow) and Creagh in County Roscommon. He actually did not live in Cloontuskert in County Roscommon; that was my mistake.

    shadow21084

    Tuesday 21st Feb 2012, 02:54PM
  • Hello

    I just read your message regarding the Mullerys in Clontuskert. There is at present Mullerys in Kellysgrove in Clontuskert.

    Also please note, Clontuskert parish wrote a book on the parish of Clontuskert about 2 years back or less.  I will ask the volunteers in Clontuskert to get in touch with you, they may have births / marriages / death records that may help in your research.

    Regards

    Paula

    Ireland Reaching Out  Office.

    Paula Kennedy

    Tuesday 21st Feb 2012, 03:07PM
  • http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Heritage/Archaeology/Graveyards/Gravey…

     

    Hi

    Just thought this site may help. It has a list of all the grave stones in Clontuskert.

    Paula

    Paula Kennedy

    Tuesday 21st Feb 2012, 03:39PM
  • Mullerys

    Hi,
    Have been trying to research Mullerys. The only Mullery paying tithes in our list in Clontuskert in 1827 was a John Mullery in Ganaveen, but there?s no Mullery in Griffiths (1856) for Ganaveen. The John Mullery of Kellysgrove was a tenant of Dennis Kelly the landlord of the area, not listed in the Tithes as Dennis Kelly paid all the tithes for that area. John?s name appears as a tenant when the Kellysgrove estate was put up for auction in 1850.
    John farmed there until the 1860?s, later a Mary Mullery and then it was bought by John Ronaldson.
    Our church records are of no assistance to you as the Birth ones start at 1829 and the others much later.
    Hope this is of some help.
    Eileen

    Paula Kennedy

    Tuesday 28th Feb 2012, 11:44AM
  • Hi Eileen,

    Could the two John Mullerys be the same person?

    I know that my John's son Peter left Ireland through the port of Galway for England around 1846 (perhaps after moving to Galway as a result of the Famine?).

    I have been unable to find any record of Peter among the Irish records available online and the only reason that I know that his father was John Mullery is because Peter's 1846 marriage certificate from Huddersfield, England states that his father was John Mullery, a farmer. Peter's wife was Catherine McDonagh and her father was Patrick McDonagh. If Catherine and Peter did not meet in England there may have been McDonaghs living near my ancestor John Mullery. Patrick McDonagh died between 1846 and 1849.

    Another clue to identifying the correct John Mullery might be the fact that Peter and Catherine's first child was Margaret. If they upheld the Irish naming tradition of the time then Margaret would have been named after Peter's mother.

    Thank you for your help,

    Andrew

    shadow21084

    Wednesday 29th Feb 2012, 02:58AM
  • Hi Andrew , I have read your post with interest. Eileen told me about this website as I am compiling my own family history. I am actually from Kellysgrove and our neighbours are the Mullerys. I will inquire for you if they have any information but it will take a week or so as I'm not there at the moment.

    In your post above you mention that John Mullery was a tenant farmer but you mention 7 different areas though some of them are close to one another. There might be several John Mullerys in that case so the Kellysgrove Mullerys might not be your relations. If I find any mention of Mullerys during my own research I'll let you know. I hope that's helpful,
    Brid

    Gaillimh

    Monday 5th Mar 2012, 09:40PM
  • Hi Brid,

    If you look at many of the John Mullery records like the Kellysgrove one they have the same landlord, the Earl of Clancarty.  I believe that the reason there are records of John in multiple locations because he moved from County Roscommon to County Galway prior to and during the Potato Famine. Prior to the potato famine there were a series of smaller famines in the 1830s and 1840s and  as a result millions of Irish moved closer to port cities like Galway to obtain food. I believe that the same is true with my 4th great-grandfather John Mullery. This would explain why John Mullery was living in multiple locations.

    I would greatly appreciate any information you can obtain from your Mullery neighbors.

    Thank you,

    Andrew

    shadow21084

    Tuesday 6th Mar 2012, 03:50PM
  • Hello Andrew.

    I think that you will find your Peter 'Mullery' living at 98 Upper Head Row, Huddersfield, England at the time of the 1851 census, although the spelling seems to be Mulry or Mulrey.

    The head of the household was John Parker, aged 38 and his wife was Mary Parker, aged 30.

    Peter is listed with his wife Catherine and baby daughter Margaret.

    Among the others listed at 98 Upper Head Row are Bridget McDonough and 'my' Mary McDonough.

    It appears that Mary Parker, Catherine Mulry/Mulrey and Bridget McDonough were sisters and were cousins of Mary McDonough - McDonough seems to have been the English spelling of McDonagh.

    There is quite a bit of information on the internet about Peter and Catherine (with various spellings - Mulry, Mulrey, Mullery, Mulray). It appears from the bits and pieces that other people have put together that Peter, Bridget McDonough and John Parker arrived in New York aboard the 'Trumbull' in May 1851. And that Catherine, and Mary Parker, arrived in New York aboard the 'Henry Clay' in July 1852 (with speculation that baby Margaret had died by that time).

    Some of this information suggests that Peter and Catherine (probably under the name Mullery) initially lived in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania and also lived in Inkerman, Pennsylvania.

    'My' Mary McDonagh/McDonough was born in Killoscobe/Killascole, Mount Bellew, County Galway in c. 1833 - the  daughter of William McDonagh (blacksmith) and Margaret Mannion. It appears that William and Margaret were married in Menlough in 1830, with the witnesses being Patrick McDonagh and Patrick Mannion.

    I hope that this helps.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    WillieBlacksmith

    Saturday 11th Aug 2012, 05:48AM
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    Hi There, I am just starting to trace my family tree that has taken me back to Ballinasloe. My great grandfather Michael Mullery was born there in 1864. He settled in leigh Lancashire with his young wife Catherine and had 11 children. In your search did you find any trace of your roots in Lancashire?

     

     

    Kevin 

    domaidan

    Saturday 29th Dec 2012, 10:20AM
  • Hi There, I am just starting to trace my family tree that has taken me back to Ballinasloe. My great grandfather Michael Mullery was born there in 1864. He settled in leigh Lancashire with his young wife Catherine and had 11 children. Could I ask if you are related in any way? Regards Kevin

     

    domaidan

    Saturday 29th Dec 2012, 10:25AM
  • I can't help with the family being sought, but I can confirm that the whole area that included Upperhead Row in Huddersfield was a long time Irish stronghold. I was born about 2 streets away (my mum was a Furey born in Loughrea) and my whole world was Irish until we moved, when I was about 8.

     

    John Mc

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    John McGowan

    Saturday 29th Dec 2012, 10:54AM
  • Willie, the Peter Mullery you found in the 1851 England Census is the correct Peter Mullery and all of the other information is consistent with what I know. I also know from Catherine and Peter's marriage certificate that Catherine's father was Patrick McDonagh, possibly the witness you mention in your comment.

    shadow21084

    Tuesday 11th Jun 2013, 10:45PM

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