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Patrick and John Conry of Runnabull

With no few hints from this site, I am managing to make it back generation after generation.

Now I have found the name of my 5x great grandfather and the likely original location of the family farm, the problem is there are two names associated with it, possibly father and son, possibly brothers, possibly cousins, &c., which is at Runnaboll.

In 1792 a group of Catholics led by Denis O'Conor Don and other notable nobility and gentry was signed by John Conry, Runnabull, and Patrick Conry, Ditto.

I actually found quite a bit of information on the property of Francis, the son of one of these gentlemen, who would have been born about 1790, in the Tithe Appointments, he rented a farm at Lisaphilip.

Anything likely to exist between the 1749 Census of Elphin and then ? Anyone know what Runnaboll was called in that census ?

O'Maoilchonaire

Monday 27th February 2017, 06:46PM

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  • Dear O'Maoilchonaire:

    Many thanks for your query to Ireland Reaching Out.

    The townland name of Runnaboll is listed in the Placenames Database of Ireland.  You can refer to it here:

    https://www.logainm.ie/en/43003

    You will note under the scanned documents that it has a number of variant names to it.

    In addition, there is a published article on the internet that discusses the name of Runnaboll and it's origins.  That link is below:

    http://ttps://www.dias.ie/wp-content/uploads/webstore/celt/pubs/celtica/c21/c21-533.pdf

    I am unaware of any Census between 1749 and the Tithe Applotment Books.  There are 1851 Census Extracts for County Roscommon but not for Kilcolagh parish.

    If you have further questions, please contact us.

     

    Kind regards,

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Thursday 2nd March 2017, 03:00PM
  • Hi Jane, thanks very much for your info about Runnaboll which I am about to review. There is a Patrick Conry listed at Kilmacumsy in the 1749 Census of Elphin, not sure if he is the same Patrick Conry of Runnaboll who signed, with John Conry, the O'Conor Don's 1792 declaration, but it's got to be him, his father, or grandfather.

    O'Maoilchonaire

    Friday 3rd March 2017, 06:58PM
  • That's great.  Please get back to us if you need further assistance.

     

    All the best,

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Saturday 4th March 2017, 08:12PM
  • Although this was not a major Linen-producing district, you may find an ancestor's name on the Flax-growers List of 1796, see http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/roscommon.htm

    Rua

    Friday 12th January 2018, 05:19AM
  • If your ancestor was a freeholder, you may also find their name on the 1829 Freeholder's Register (electoral register) which can sometimes surprise you with a mention of other holdings they may have had.

    Most of the Irish freeholders records were destroyed by the 1922 fire in the Public Record Office (Four Courts, Dublin) during the civil war.  However, in the case of Co Roscommon & Co Leitrim, this list was published in the local press, and now can be viewed online.

    To find out more, click here...

    https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/timeline/notice-intention-register-freehold

     

     

    Rua

    Friday 12th January 2018, 05:29AM
  • Hi Rua, I can't seem to find any records for Roscommon through that link, however by the Tithe Applotments (sorry I wrote Appointments or spell check did in my previous post) which was 1824 for Kilmacumsy, Francis (Frank) Conry, the son of Patrick, and grandson of John, was possessed of a farm at Runnacocka and Lisaphillip West next to a John Dempsey, I presume his wife Brighid's father's farms :

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?c...

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?c...

    Would still be interested to access Roscommon freeholders if it is possible and I just can't figure it out.

    O'Maoilchonaire

    Monday 15th January 2018, 02:55AM
  • Oh sorry I just reread. I found a small portion of the newspaper, but couldn't find the full image, would appreciate the link if you have, thanks

    O'Maoilchonaire

    Monday 15th January 2018, 02:57AM
  • As far as the 1749 Census, there was a John Conry at 'Kilmacumsy', I'm quite certain he was the father of John and grandfather of Patrick of the 1792 Proclamation. However Runnabull is not now in Kilmacumsy, but Kilcolagh, does it make sense it would have been called Kilmacumsy in 1749 ? I have the baptism record for Luke Malachi Conry, father of James Gervé Conroy being 1811 in Elphin and Francis Conry (listed as Conty) and Brighid (Dempsey) his parents, and they lived at the farms in the above post, but oddly we were always told we were from Raheen, which is near Elphin but less North and more West. Not sure why. My great-grandfather even named his property on Bonaventure in St. John's Newfoundland Raheen

    O'Maoilchonaire

    Monday 15th January 2018, 03:11AM
  • (Sorry all I have is the screenshot, previously sent).

    In May 1829 onwards, The Leitrim & Roscommon Gazette, published Voting Register (Freeholders lists)  as the lists became public,  in various editions of its newspaper as a supplement.

    There are at least 8 relevant pages, which you will have to pick through as they have yet to be transcribed.

    You can access these supplements as part of a newspaper archive search online, in the British Newspaper Archive for a small subscription. In fact, you'll probably find a whole lot more information about your family, by running searches for names and places in this fantastic resource.

     

     

     

    Rua

    Wednesday 17th January 2018, 08:39AM