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Hello, I've recently discovered that my ancestor, John Hageney (son of Patrick Hageney and Catharine Grady) was born in the Townland of Ballyvistea.  I'm curious what kind of place that is today and whether there are any places near by to stay in when I am able to visit Ireland.

 

Thanks so much!

 

Kathleen Heagney

KathleenHeagney

Monday 17th August 2020, 04:50AM

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  • Hi Kathleen:

    You may be able to find more information about Ballyvistea at the following two website:

    https://tipperarystudies.ie/  This website is the Tipperary Local Studies Archive and it has quite a bit of information available online.  If you use Emly as a search term, you will find that Emly has a very active historical society with a number of articles that you might find interesting.

    The Logainm and Townlands websites are also good for information.

    https://www.logainm.ie/en/48943

    https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/clanwilliam/emly/rodus/ballyvistea/

    The townlands link will also give you the ability to view the 1901 & 1911 Census occupants in the townland and this might be of value to you for your research.  

    Many thanks for your interest in Ireland Reaching Out.

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 17th August 2020, 10:59AM
  • Kathleen,
    I visited Emly last year. It is a nice town to stroll through. St. Ailbe is a beautiful church with a website
    https://emly.ie/
    You could contact someone there about Ballyvista or contact a local business or an auctioneer/ realtor who sells homes in the area.

    I checked Emly Cemetery on Historicgraves.com and did not find either of your family names.

    I searched Google Map with the coordinates 52° 29' 6" N, 8° 22' 52" W and reached this site which will give you a sense of what Ballyvista looks like. It looks like mostly farms.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/52%C2%B029'06.0%22N+8%C2%B022'52.0%22W/@52.4867952,-8.3732781,2947m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d52.485!4d-8.3811111

    When we were first planning our trip to Emly, we checked out airbnb rentals in Emly, Tipperary. We decided to stay at a hotel/ golf resort in Limerick Junction outside the Town of Tipperary. We had a rental car so we could easily drive to Emly. If you are not driving, there is a train station in the Tipperary/ Limerick Junction area that has trains from Dublin. Perhaps you can make arrangements for a taxi service or car service at the station.

    In 1987, Michael and Liam O'Dwyer wrote the book "The Parish of Emly- Its History and Heritage". There is a section on Ballyvista that the Grady family is mentioned. I am not sure if it connects to yours but here is what they covered.

    "In the Civil Survey this townland of 629 acres belonged to the Bishop of Emly and later it became part of the estate of the Archbishop of Cashel...Ballyvista was one of the four Episcopal Manors of the Bishop. There are three forts in the townland which indicate their importance in early times and the name of the field called the Caher may date from this time.

    In 1659, James Grady was the Tituladoe (head tenant) of the Townland. In 1667 he had a house here with two hearths, the largest house in the townland....

    Dr. Palliser was the main tenant of the townland for many years. On a map of the Palliser estate for 1789 Derby O'Grady was an under tenant...In 1796 Standish OGrady [was an under tenant]. Ballyvista was then described as one of the best farms in Emly."

    Summary of the rest- Ryan Family were tenants of the O'Gradys in the eighteenth century. These are the same Ryans that moved to Scarteen and are known for the Black and Tans hunting pack. Standish O'Grady was the Chief Baron in 1816 and remained an under tenant until 1830. There is a John Grady mentioned on the Tithe Applotment record in 1834.

    I hope this helps
    Regards- Mary

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 18th August 2020, 02:48PM
  • Kathleen,
    Unfortunately, when the Google Map link was highlighted it did not capture the entire link and brought you to the wrong place. Best option is to go to

    Google Map and search coordinates 52° 29' 6" N, 8° 22' 52" W

    By the way, https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/clanwilliam/emly/rodus/ballyvistea/ that Jane suggested is where I found the coordinates for Ballyvistea. My four grandparents are from Ireland and was a great site for figuring out where the towns they came from were.

    Take care- Mary

    MaryTV

    Tuesday 18th August 2020, 04:46PM
  • Thanks to Jane and Mary for wonderful information!  I have a bit of work to do, but I still have plenty of time to get my work done thanks to this terrible pandamic we're all dealing with.  I hope everyone stays safe and is able to maintain their health.

     

    Kathleen. 

     

     

     

    KathleenHeagney

    Wednesday 19th August 2020, 03:03AM
  • You're very welcome, Kathleen!  

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Wednesday 19th August 2020, 11:54AM