My Fleming family and Griffith family came from Dromore, Tyrone NI. I think they were planter families. John William Fleming & Mary (nee Griffin/Griffith) were living in Drumquin in 1854 when daughters Jane & Margaret Fleming came to Australia in 1854. Son Robert Fleming followed in 1879.
Many of the Griffith family were already in Australia before the Fleming family came and they
were related to Alexander Griffin/Griffith of Cornamuck Dromore and his wife Jane Summerville.
Other surnames: Rutledge, Wilson had marriage connections with the Griffin family.
We have a Fleming Y Project at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/fleming/ and another database at the Y Search website www.ysearch.org with Flemings from around the world.
Kin are finding kin who have been lost to each other for generations or
hundreds of years due to migration to the colonies. If you are a Fleming male or female you
are welcome to join. It is free. DNA testing is optional but most eventually have a 37 or 67 Y marker
test or upload their results from other companies so as to compare with the rest of our Fleming
males. Spread the word about this project to all Flemings in Northern Ireland. The Y projects at Ancestry have closed and so participants from that project have been encouraged to transfer their dna signatures to Family Tree DNA and upgrade and also to Y Search.
Flandrensis
Wednesday 25th Sep 2013, 07:59AMMessage Board Replies
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Mary Fleming nee Griffin born early 1800s.
Lived Cornamuck Townland Dromore Parish Tyrone
Parents Alexander Griffin/Griffith and Jane Summerfield/Summerville
Married John William Fleming of Dromore Parish
Living in Drumquin in 1854
Issue: Jane 1833, Margaret 1835 & Robert c1852
Flandrensis
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To which state, city, area in Australia did Jane & Margaret Fleming emigrate?
Eire2Go
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To which state, city, area in Australia did Jane & Margaret Fleming emigrate?
Eire2Go
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In 1854 they came to NSW on the south coast first of all to Jambaroo Valley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamberoo,_New_South_Wales near a city
called Wollongong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollongong
Margaret Fleming married her cousin James Griffin/Griffith and he was then killed in a
logging accident. They had 2 children. She then married another Griffith cousin called
Alexander and the family moved to a place called March near Orange NSW on the
other side of the blue montains. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange,_New_South_Wales
Jane Fleming married Samuel Priest and she too settled in the March/Orange area.
The Griffith boys had came out much earlier along with many others from Tyrone
settling at Marshall ount http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Mount,_New_South_Wales
- named after Marshall family of Dromore.
By the time our Robert Fleming came out in 1879 Margaret was living near Orange
and he went there too. He was about 27yrs old and I think it was he who came
to Australia with the photo of his mother (Mary Fleming (nee Griffin). He also had
a photo of himself taken about the same time. (see attached) As we have never sighted a photo of
his father perhaps he was already deceased, in jail or elsewhere ? when Robert
came to oz. We have possibly four DNA matches with Flemings in USA.
Some who settled there in the 1600s and others who emigrated from Ireland much later.
Some of these Fleming matches in the USA may have been Quaker families.
Here in Australia our Flemings chose to attend the Congregational Church and/or
the Methodist.
Our Flemings of Drumquin/Dromore may be distantly cousins to the Flemings of Bridgewater
Farm Dromore who left for Canada after the Big Wind of 1836 and settled in Toronto. We
seem to have a very distant dna match with that family. William Fleming of Bridgewater
Farm on the Old Coach Road married the widow of George Noble. There is a book about
this Tyrone family called "Polly of Bridgewater Farm"and a film clip online
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTeiU0grVLo and the book http://pollyofbridgewaterfarm.com/
which is also read in Northern Ireland/ Ireland schools. Our common ancestor with this
family may be back in England even before the plantation and after the conquest of 1066.
Flandrensis
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Thanks for that info. I'm interested to learn how you identified the County and Townland for an 1854 arrival in NSW. Did you find emigration papers? Or other source in Co. Tyrone?
Eire2Go
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Hello,
I did reply to you private but am just posting this here in case anyone is following the conversation
The NSW Gov has shipping records on a searchable site but before they came online
many years ago we applied for the details of the shipping records and were sent the information
they contained. We also ordered and paid for copies of the original records from the archives
So we obtained the ships names, the place of abode or native of info and parents name
and place of abode if alive. They also made mention of other relatives alive in the colony
and for Robert the mention of a sponsor a Mr Thomas Alexander (Dromore) who was
like a character reference for him before he left Dromore. I think that there are two shipping
reels for each ship - there were back then - and each had similar and/or different or new info
so worth checking both reels for the particular ship of interest. I think one may have been
completed on boarding and the other completed on disembarking? But anyways all the
shipping records are in the "ARK" project which is held in alot of public libraries and family
history societies around oz and also NSW State Records office in Sydney. The NSW
Records office has lots of shipping and convict records. http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
Flandrensis