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Hello,

I have traced my partners family tree back to Patrick McBride and his wife Ann (nee Kelly). The information I have is - Patrick was born about 1827 in County Tyrone, Anne was born about 1827 in Tyrone. Patrick's parents could be Patrick John McBride and Cora merange.
Patrick and Ann were married 28 October 1846 in Termonmaguirk, County Tyrone, Ireland. Witness to the marriage: Michael Hollywood & Martha Kelly.
Patrick and Anne came to Australia in 1857 on the ship the "Omega" departing Plymouth 13th August 1857, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 14th November 1857.  Members of the family that were on the ship were Patrick aged 30 (Labourer) Tyrone, Ann (Kelly) 30, John 10, Patrick 8, Michael 6, Peter William 4, Bridget 2.

I have record of them having 8 children - 4 male, 4 female.

  • John McBride born 1849/50 in Ireland (don't know where), died 1876 in Port Pirie, South Austalia, Australia. Married Sarah Hollywood June 18, 1871 in Australia.  Sarah was born about 1849 in Ireland.
  • Patrick Joseph McBride born March 17, 1850 in Omagh, Tyrone, Northern Ireland, died Nov 25 1911 in Port Pirie, South Australia, Australia. Married Honorah O'Donoghue May 22 1876 in Australia.  Honorah was born April 23, 1854, Boherbue, Cork, Ireland
  • Michael McBride born 1852 in Ireland. 
  • Peter William McBride born 1854 in Ireland. 
  • Bridget McBride born in 1855 in Ireland.
  • Catherine Matilda McBride born January 18 1858 
  • Ellenor (Ellen) Ida McBride born 1860
  • Annie Jane McBride born 1863 in Edwardstown, South Australia, Australia

All Children were married and had children in Australia of which I have this information but obviously might not have all details (or all correct details).

My partners mother's name are Jennifer Ann Greenwell, (nee McBride).  Her link to Patrick and Ann is:

  • Jennifer's father and mother are Frederick Joseph McBride & Lorna Millicent Wilson.
  • Frederick's father and mother are Edward James McBride & Isabel May Donovan
  • Edward's father and mother are Peter William McBride & Catherine Turner
  • Peter William McBride's father and mother are Patrick McBride & Ann Kelly.

I would like help verifying this information and ensure the details are correct as well as fill in any gaps that I have missing.  If there is information on further ancestors of this family, this would be appreciated,  I am also very interested in any photos of Jennifer's direct ancestors that may be available.  (Also interested in photos of any McBride's in this family). 

If you need any further information please let me know. My email is jbarker72@bigpond.com

Any assistance you can provide is greatly appreciated.   

Kind regards,

Julie-Anne Barker.

Julie-Anne Greenwell

Monday 7th October 2013, 11:22AM

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  • Julie-Anne,

    The rootsireland site appears to have a record of the marriage in 1846. (pay to view). There?s no trace of any of the couple?s children being born in Termonaguirk. Tradition was to marry in the bride?s church and so it may be that Patrick normally lived in a different parish. Or that they moved after they married. I think in this case it was that he lived in a  different parish, and they lived there after marriage.

    I searched for Peter?s baptism on rootsireland and he was baptised 8th Feb 1854 in the RC parish of Errigal Kieran which is the next parish immediately south from Termonaguirk. The family address at the time was Tirnaskea. You can search for the other Irish born children and perhaps you will find them too. My guess is that Peter?s home was Tirnaskea. The parish records only appear to start in 1834, so it may not be possible to confirm his baptism, though you might find any siblings born after 1834. If so, that should give you his likely parents. (So you would be searching for McBride baptisms in Tirnaskea).

    http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php

    Griffiths Valuation for Tirnaskea in 1860 lists a James McBride living there. Perhaps a relative of Patrick?s? James had a small farm (plot 8)  consisting of a farmhouse, outbuildings and 16 and a quarter acres of land. Nearby were an Arthur and Mary McBride who each had a farmhouse, (plots 3a & 3b) and they shared outbuildings and just under 29 acres of land. A moderate sized farm for the area. Arthur & Mary?s farms today are on the Whitebridge Rd. James? is close by on the Martray Rd, a mile or two north of Ballygawley.

    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

    In the 1901 census, there were two McBride farms in Tirnaskea. Their ages might make them brothers to the Patrick who married Ann Kelly.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballygawley/Tirnaskea/

    Still two farms there in 1911:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Ballygawley/Tirnaskea/

    I found this probate file for John McBride who died intestate in 1927. The full file should be held in PRONI, Belfast but is not on-line. They?ll send you a copy (for a fee).

    Full Abstract :

    McBride John of Tirnaskea county Tyrone farmer died 6 November 1927 Administration Londonderry 19 December to Ceciliea Harris married woman. Effects ?88 10s.

    http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

    You can follow through from the initial Griffiths Valuation in 1860, to see changes in occupants, right up to 1929, using the revaluation records. The site?s a bit fiddly to get the hang of. There are later records up to the 1960s, again in PRONI but they are not on-line.

    http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

    Going backwards, the next set of records to search would be the tithe applotment records (1820 & 1830s) which were compiled for tax purposes, but which list all agricultural land. And so you should be able to find who was head of household for the various farms at that time from that source. Those for Tyrone are not on-line and a personal visit is generally required to PRONI to look them up.

    Another document held at PRONI that might be helpful:

    D2966/115

    Description :             Volume of maps of the Tirnaskea estate in the barony of Dungannon, Co. Tyrone, the property of the Misses Baillie

     

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 7th October 2013, 12:24PM
  • Thank you so much Elwyn.  

    I will keep searching, and will join these websites.

    We are planning to visit Ireland in a few years so will definitely be coming to this region when we visit.

    I really appreciate your help.

    Julie-Anne.

    Julie-Anne Greenwell

    Tuesday 8th October 2013, 12:20PM
  • Honorah O'Donoghue visited ireland 1913 we had a reunion last sept with some of the odonoghue clan

    some parts of her trip are in diary if you wish can forward same

    peter o donoghue

    barnacurra

    Sunday 8th June 2014, 02:23AM
  • Re Hollywood /Kelly,
    I have been reading a book by Peter Kerr (Innishatieve Carrickmore or Termonmaguirke as it was known in the 1800's}
    There is reference to a Hollywood/Kelly marriage....Owen Hollywood, Greencastle married Isabel Kelly..does not give date but on reading the details I would say it was approximately1825/35.
    Peter Kerr's book is on the internet...
    Families and Holdings in the Townland of Innishatieve, Carrickmore.
    hhtp://www.jstor.org/stable/29742595

    This maybe of help to you,

    Briege

    altadrum123

    Monday 1st June 2015, 08:32PM
  • Re Hollywood /Kelly,
    I have been reading a book by Peter Kerr (Innishatieve Carrickmore or Termonmaguirke as it was known in the 1800's}
    There is reference to a Hollywood/Kelly marriage....Owen Hollywood, Greencastle married Isabel Kelly..does not give date but on reading the details I would say it was approximately1825/35.
    Peter Kerr's book is on the internet...
    Families and Holdings in the Townland of Innishatieve, Carrickmore.
    hhtp://www.jstor.org/stable/29742595

    This maybe of help to you,

    Briege

    altadrum123

    Monday 1st June 2015, 08:32PM