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Currabaha West

my husband's gr grandfather, JOHN GOUGH's baptismal record says parish is Stradbally; address Carabaha.   do you think that should have said Currabaha West?

is there someone who regulary searches the parish records in Stradbally?  i have had no response from fr. condon at HolyCross.  i am looking for the children of Edward and Mary Gough, who were married in Ballylaneen on Sept 8, 1828.

thanks.

 

 

Patsy31748

Sunday 3rd November 2013, 02:21AM

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  • Hi Patsy,

    I searched baptisms/births on www.rootsireland.ie/ for the children of Edward and Mary Gough years 1838 + - 10 years in Waterford and got 3 results: Thomas 1830 Michael 1840 & Patrick 1842.

    It is possible to check the parish and it was Stradbally RC for all 3.

    When I extended the search to + - 20 years I got 3 more: John 1849 Edward 1851 & another Thomas 1856

    There is also a record of the marriage of Edward & Mary in 1828 in Waterford. If you purchase this it will give you Mary's last name and you or I could then search for the children to see which belong to them.

    Col

     

    ColCaff

    Sunday 3rd November 2013, 03:39AM
  • oh, thank you, col.  i have seen all these indexed but could not find the evidence that they were edward and mary's sons.  it is curious about the second thomas.  perhaps there oldest thomas had died?

    i have copies of the marriage record and john's baptism from rootsireland.ie.  i will go and find the others today.

    mary's maiden name was O'DONNELL.

    now, my task is to find a connection to GOUGHs currently living in the area.  i have been trying to make contact w/thomas gough in An Rinn....married to anne mooney of Mooney's Pub.  will do my best to get a response.

    yes, it would be great to meet in Whelan's, wouldn't it?

    thanks again.

    Pat

     

    Patsy31748

    Sunday 3rd November 2013, 12:05PM
  • mary's maiden name is DONNELL

    Patsy31748

    Sunday 3rd November 2013, 12:12PM
  • Hi Patrsy,

    I searched www.rootsireland.ie/ for baptisms/births for Gough with father Edward Gough and mother Mary Donnell and only got Thomas 1830!!

    So much for that idea!

    Col

    ColCaff

    Sunday 3rd November 2013, 07:52PM
  • col,

    the birth records for Thomas Gough b. 1830 give Mary's surname as O'Donnell.

    Patrick b. 1842 give it as Daniel.  Michael b. 1840 give it as Daniel.

    i honestly think these are mispellings of DONNELL as shown on the marriage certificate o 1828.

    i have seen the microfilms in the National Archives and can see why the transcribers make the spelling errors they do.

    i have also seen the correct spelling of Currabaha on some Gough records and now realize that the spelling of "Carabaha" on John's baptismal record is also a mispelling.

    at this point, i am going to claim Thomas b. 1830, Michael b. 1840 and Patrick b. 1842 as John's (b. 1849) brothers.

    is there anyone living in or very near Stradbally who searches the parish records at Church of the Exhaltation of the Holy Cross or the Faha Church in Kilmacthomas?

    thanks, all.

    pat

     

    Patsy31748

    Monday 4th November 2013, 06:33PM
  • I see you've posted to the Stradbally parish site, Pat.

    I wonder if the phone assistance on Family Search would be able to help?

    Col

    ColCaff

    Monday 4th November 2013, 07:32PM
  • Hello Patsy , I'am from Argentina and tracking back my 2GG father that lived in Carrigcastle , Ballylaneen.

    I saw your post about yours ancestor's marriage at Ballylaneen ,  do you positive know that ceremony was in St.Anne's chuch Ballylaneen ? I'm asking this because I'was told that Stradbally IFHF records don't specify the proper church but the RC parish which comprises the different chapels...

    I would appreciate if you share your info about this ,

    Thanks in advance ,

    Regards,Roberto

    robertoe

    Tuesday 26th November 2013, 02:20PM
  • Hello Roberto,

    You're quite correct. The Catholic parishes of Stradbally and Ballylaneen have long been united and parish registers do not usually specify which church the ceremony took place in.

    I hope you've had some success in your research since then. What was your great-great-grandfather's name?

    Best wishes,

    Cian

    C Flaherty

    Sunday 24th May 2020, 03:16PM
  • Pat

    There is a William (Liam) Gough that lives in the Stradbally

    area.  His email is wpgough@gmail.com

    His father lives nearby as well.  I don't know if they'll be able to help you but you can try.

     

    Roberto

    My family were from Ballylaneen as well.  The names are Gully Readon and Guiry.  Do any of them match with your family.

    Jim Thompson

     

    Jim Thompson

    Monday 25th May 2020, 09:01AM
  • Hello Cian and Jim , thanks for answering.

    My 2GG's family surname was Thomson Tomson Thompson Tompson as I have found it in church records.

    I also learnt that this family lived mainly in Graigueshoneen, but at the time , end of 18th and beggining of 19th centuries there were no RC church in that area , son they got married in Ballylaneen.

    My 3GG was a James , seem to have brother named Anthony who was a local weaver when Kilmacthomas Woolen Mill was established.

    My 2GG was William Thompson , married to a Bridget Keane / Kane , at Ballylaneen in 1836 and lived in Carrigcaste , Ballylaneen Parish until 1851 , then due to eviction they moved to Carrick on Suir.

    Any further info you may share just let me know,

    Thank you again,

    Kind Regards

    Roberto

     

    Tuesday 26th May 2020, 11:19AM
  • HELLO,

    This might be of interest to someone here!

    My gr gr grandmother was named CATHERINE THOMPSON/TOMSON/THOMPSTON. Born circa 1830, location unknown;buried in Fenor, Co. Waterford.

    Catherine married EDMUND GOUGH 1828-1900, in Dunhill, Co. Waterford in 1857.

    Their son MICHAEL, 1857-1944, was my gr grandfather.

    Names appearing as marriage Witnesses + baptism Sponsors are THOMAS O'DONNELL, THOMAS GOUGH + ANASTASIA GOUGH. ELLEANORA THOMPSTON appears as a Sponsor to a baptism of Michael Flynn, Fenor, in 1857.

    Regards

    Davern

    Tuesday 26th May 2020, 09:49PM
  • Roberto

    There were Thompsons in the Kilmacthomas area but unfortunatley they were not my family.  I have a home about seven miles from Kilmacthomas.  There is a large old stone building in Kilmac that was a wool mill built in the mid 19th century and on the sign in from of the building it mentions Thompsons.  That building is now a whiskey distillery for Natterjack whiskey.  There is a Thompson grave in St James church in Stradbally and a family of Thompsons remain in Portlaw which is not far away.  There is also a small lane in Dungarvan called Thompson Lane named after a merchant who was once there.  

    My Thompson link came from the north of Ireland.

    My ancestors (the Gullys and Reardons) from Ballylaneen were copper miners working in the Bunmahon area for most of the 19th century.  They emigrated to New York around 1880.

    Jim

     

    Jim Thompson

    Wednesday 27th May 2020, 06:48AM
  • Hello Roberto,

    I think this photograph shows some Thompsons from Kilmacthomas, but I've no idea if they'd be related or not: http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000595299

    Best wishes,

    Cian

    C Flaherty

    Thursday 28th May 2020, 04:20PM
  • Hi Cian , Thanks for sharing this , I learnt sometime ago this Michael Thompson is related to my Thompsons , he was son of a Edmund Thompson , son of Anthony Thompson , the Kilmacthomas weaver.

    Kind regards

    robertoe

    Thursday 28th May 2020, 10:06PM
  • Hi Robertoe:

    I was wondering if you would create an Ancestor profile for your Thompson ancestors.  This would be a great help with anyone else who may be researching the same family.  

    The link to do so is here:  https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/ancestor-database

    If you need any assisting with creating the profile, please let me know.  You might be interested in taking a look at what the Stradbally community has done as they have quite a large number of Ancestor profiles on their parish page as well as other information about the area.

    You can view the parish page here:  https://irelandxo.com/ireland/waterford/stradbally

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Friday 29th May 2020, 09:43AM
  • THanks Jane , I'll check that out

    Regards

    Saturday 30th May 2020, 05:32PM
  • Roberto

     

    There is a man named Kevein Thompson living in New Zealand that has a lot of information about the Thompsons of our arer  He sent this message to me some time ago.  His emailis kevthom29@gmail.com   I'm think he may be of some help to you in your search for the Waterford Thompsons.

    Quoted from Kevin

    "My grandmother Zilpha Maud Thompson is buried in the churchyard at St James' Church. On the left as you go in amongst the Crowley family.

    One of her sisters married a Crowley & they had 13 children. The Crowleys are still very much in evidence in Stradbally today.

    My grandfather was Robert Thompson eldest son of John Thompson who farmed Baylough in Portlaw just outside Waterford. As my grandfather ran away to fight in the Boer War it was one of his younger brothers that carried on the farm, and it's his descendants that still run it today.. Now 7 generations of Thompson's have farmed Baylough.

    Many years ago there were Thompson's 'in service' at Curraghmore House, home of the Marguess of Waterford - a Beresford. It was I understand a Beresford whose home you now own. The Beresfords have very strong connections in Stradbally. 

    Zilpha was a secretary/maid to the then 5th Marquess and eventually accompanied Lord Waterford's daughter Lady Clodagh when she married Lord Anson & went to Texas. 

    There are Thompson's buried in the Beresford family Cemetery on the Curraghmore Estate. So I assume were very trusted servants in bygone years, who were eventually gifted land to farm at Baylough & Ballycahane just outside Portlaw. William & John Thompson both run these farms today. I think they own the farms outright now. 

    There are a lot of Thompson's buried in the churchyard at Portlaw. My grandfather was the eldest of 9 & if his father & fathers father were all from large families then it is assumed there are many descendants. Their names were John & Robert alternately back through the generations.

    I know Thompsons from Portlaw found their way to Canada-via Nova Scotia. Waterford, Ireland St Johns, Newfoundland are sister cities. There is a Portlaw in Canada. Named by George Thomspon from Portlaw in Ireland.   William Sparrow Thompson from Portlaw had a son John Sparrow Thompson who became Prime Minister of Canada for a short while. In fact died "in office"; whilst visiting Queen Victoria at Windsor Castle. Many Thompson migrated into the United States.

    After the Boer War my father found his way to London where he married his childhood sweetheart Zilpha who by then had returned from Texas.  They married in London & my father & his brothere were all born there. I grew up in London and emigrated to New Zealand in 1975. Where we came across other Thompson's living  close by. One of my grandfathers younger brothers emigrated to New Zealand, and we discovered was only 15 mins away from us here in Wellington. So there are Thompson's spread far & wide.

    Hope this isof interest.

    Jim

    Jim Thompson

    Sunday 31st May 2020, 06:45AM
  • THank you Jim for sharing this ,

    Kind Regards

    Sunday 31st May 2020, 02:02PM
  • Hi Roberto and Jim

    I have been following your posts with interest. I am another descendant of one of the Church of Ireland Thompson families from around Portlaw / Knocknachrohy / Baylough and Ballycahane. I also live in New Zealand but my line came out here in the 1850s when many others went to Canada. I am in contact with Kevin Thompson. He is still very active on his family history as are many, many other Thompson descendants from all the different lines.

     

    Many of us have collaborated, so have a lot more info on the multitude of Thompsons and better understanding of their stories. The earliest confirmed records we have are for William Thompson (1706 - 1773) and his wife Anne Foster (1710 - 1786) who were tenant farmers on the Beresford owned Knocknachrohy. They had  5 sons and 4 daughters who lived to adulthood, married and are responsible for many of the Thompson, Power, Clifford, Mulowney, Crowley and Quigley families who populated the surrounding areas! The consistent story across these Thompson families are that they originally came to the Portlaw area in the Cromwellian settlements of the 1600s.

    I have spent many hours in the RCB library in Dublin as well as many other sources tracking information available for the Thompsons and happily share this info. I have also posted the photos I took in the Clonagam Churchyard and other nearby cemeteries on Findagrave. As far as we have been able to ascertain (so far anyway) there is no connection between the Kilmacthomas Anthony and the Portlaw based COI Thompsons. However there was an RC Thompson family in Portlaw in the late 1800s early 1900s, members of which were watermen or worked at the mill.  Just to confuse the issue there was also another Anthony Thompson (1818 - 1893) who was the foreman blacksmith on Curraghmore and had a small holding opposite where the Salaheen Cottages are. This Anthony came out to NZ in 1860.

    As you probably know, Louisa Waterford (wife of the 3rd Marquis) started the mill where the RC Anthony Thompson became so well reknown. There are references to this Anthony in the biography "Two Noble Lives" which chronicles the lives of Louisa and her sister Charlotte Canning.

     

    Best wishes from New Zealand

    Phillippa Kidd

     

    Phillippa

    Sunday 31st May 2020, 10:22PM
  • Hi Phillipa , this is a very interesting info , indeed I was wondering how my RC Thompsons got there in Kilmacthomas ,  I 'll try to find that out based on this.

    Thank you very much for sharing,

    Kind Regards

    Monday 1st June 2020, 11:47AM
  • Thanks Phillippa

    The information you provided is fascinating to me even though I'm not a Thompson from this area of Waterford.  I know the Crowley family well because they're my neighbours at Woodhouse.  Charlie Crowley (son of Noel Crowley) is a skilled carpenter who has built a lot of furniture for us during our renovation.  The Crowleys have a burial plot at St. James Church of Ireland in Stradbally and are very active in the St James Church of Ireland.  

    There was a Thompson who was a successful merchant in Dungarvan and Thompson Lane is named after him. 

    The undertaker in Waterford is Thompson and they've been in there from 1786 http://www.thompsonfunerals.ie/

    There is a reprint of a book on the famine in Waterford that may be of interest. It's available on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0845Z8QTR/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1  This book covers many towns including Stradbally and Ballylaneen.  The author Willie Fraher is a good friend and one of most knowledgable folks on the history of County Waterford.

    My home, Woodhouse, once belonged to Lord William Beresford and we've built a museum to all the former owners of Woodhouse.  We're friends of the Beresfords of Curraghmore.

    My own family were Gully/Reardon/GuiryAhearn/Duggan - all from County Waterford.  The Thompsons were from County Antrim and we're still digging to find more about them.  John Thompson emigrated to New York in 1848.  Nora Gully and Patrick Ahearn went there in 1879.  The Gully family were all copper miners in the town of Bunmahon.

    I'll look for anyother information that might beof help.

    Jim

     

     

    Jim Thompson

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 07:08AM
  • Thanks everyone for the very interesting information that is being shared on this thread.  

    Roberto, please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or need any further information.

    The very best of luck with the research and thanks to all for being so helpful and sharing information.

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 09:44AM
  • Thanks everyone for the very interesting information that is being shared on this thread.  

    Roberto, please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or need any further information.

    The very best of luck with the research and thanks to all for being so helpful and sharing information.

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 09:45AM
  • Thanks everyone for the very interesting information that is being shared on this thread.  

    Roberto, please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or need any further information.

    The very best of luck with the research and thanks to all for being so helpful and sharing information.

    All the best,

     

    Jane

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 09:45AM
  • Not sure if you are aware of this intesting site with many of the church grave yards and headstones around ireland.  It may help you find a few family members

    https://historicgraves.com/

    Here's St James in Stradbally

    https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/stjames-s-stradbally-anglican-c-i/wa-stbl

    and Holy Croww in Stradbally

    https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/rc-exaltation-holy-cross/wa-sbly

     

    Jim

    Jim Thompson

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 09:57AM
  • Thank you very much Jim,

    Kind Regards

    Tuesday 2nd June 2020, 11:12AM