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My great great grandfather, James Crinigan, was born around 1825, and married Ellen Heavy 3 February 1856 in Balrow, Ballynacarrigy. He was appointed a warden for the Irish National League 21 June 1884, and died 22 May 1905. His wife, Ellen, was born around 1828 and died 20 July 1894. They had the following children, all born in Ballynacarrigy; Michael (Jan 1858), John (6 Dec 1862), Anne (my great grandmother, 4 June 1865), Mary (26 March 1868), Thomas (25 July 1870), and Eugene (23 February 1873). Any information about the Crinigans and/or Heavys would be greatly appreciated. 

Bill Stemmle

Monday 3rd Apr 2017, 03:13AM

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  • Hi Bill,

    Here's the only Westmeath baptism for Ellen around 1828 from rootsireland.ie/:

    Name:Ellen HeveyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:30-Apr-1829Address:Not RecordedParish/District:MILLTOWNGender:FemaleCountyCo. Westmeath
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Thomas HeveyMother:Mary

    No luck with James.

    No Crinigans in Westmeath in the Tithe Applotments or the Irish Census 1841; none in the current Irish phone book either.

    There are some in the 1901 & 1911 Irish Censuses (free online)

    Mary's marriage:

    Date of Marriage:21-Nov-1887
    Parish / District:BALLINACARGY
    County:Co. Westmeath
    Husband
    WifeName:PatrickDonnelly
    Mary AnneCrinigan

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 3rd Apr 2017, 07:51AM
  • Thank you so much for your help! My great great grandmother, Ellen Heavy, is frankly making me nuts! If you would be so kind, I have two additional questions. First, is Milltown close to Ballynacarrigy? Second, I found a prison register showing that in 1850 an Ellen Heavy from Mullingar was imprisoned in Grangegorman Female Prison, Dublin for being "in Possn Straw". I know English rule was heavy handed, but was this an actual crime?

    Bill Stemmle

    Wednesday 5th Apr 2017, 04:14PM
  • Bill I'm afraid I'm no Westmeath expert but I'm wondering if Ballinacargy is a mistranscription of Ballynagarby as that is the closest version I could find on parish info sites!

    If this is the case Milltown & Ballinagarbry have no bordering townlands in common so are not close. I'll be happy to be corrected if this is not the case.

    Your other question - I can only surmise that the Brits were trying to discourage crime by fear of consequences & totally unaware of allowing for poverty so it is sadly quite possible she was severely punished for this!

    If you don't get a response from a Westmeath expert or knhowledgeable Irish person perhaps Westmeath Tourism or Genealogy Centre might know about the parish locations.

    Col 

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 6th Apr 2017, 11:28AM
  • Ballynacarrigy is a village in Kilbixby Parish on the Royal Canal and the R393 regional road, near Mullingar.

    Bill Stemmle

    Friday 7th Apr 2017, 03:05AM
  • CRINIGAN from Ballinacarrigy Westmeath Ireland

    Dear Bill Stemmie,

     Here is some information on Four CRINIGAN brothers  who went from Ballinacarrigy Westmeath, Ireland to Buenos Aires, Argentina.

     My Great grandmother Catherine CRINIGAN married James WALSH on 8 Feb 1857 in Ballynacargy, Westmeath, Ireland.

     I have found  some information on the CRINIGAN family of Westmeath over several years. 

     There is a family history story that four uncles went from Ballinacarrigy, county Westmeath, Ireland to Buenos Aires, Argentina. 

    I found at the New York Public Library  the book entitled "Los Irelandese in la Argentina" by Eduardo COUGHLAN , published in 1987, pages 197-198 . It is a scholarly work and it should be available in several Libraries in the USA and world wide. Although it is written in Spanish not English it is easy to read. 

      The book confirms that exactly four CRINIGAN brothers from Ballinacarrigy, Westmeath, Ireland went to Buenos Aires Argentina.

     The CRINIGAN family members who according to this book left Ballinacarrigy Ireland for Buenos Aires were as follows:

    Francis CRINIGAN,

    William CRINIGAN,

    Eugene CRINIGAN and

     Matthew CRINIGAN.

    The family tradition has always said that four brothers went to Buenos Aires, Argentina . I think these were the brothers of Catherine CRINIGAN WALSH and the uncles to her children.  I think the timeline and the place of origin is right. Three of the CRINIGAN brothers married and had families in Argentina. It appears that Matthew CRINIGAN did not marry and did not have any children. All four CRINIGAN brothers died in Argentina. 

    Up until the early 1940s my mother's first cousin Elizabeth "Betty " ALLARD  CONLON  use to write back and forth with the children and grandchildren of the " Brothers CRINIGAN” in Argentina. The children and grandchildren were all very successful in Argentina. It was my understanding the brothers went out to Argentina under a scheme whereby if you tended a flock of sheep for several years at the end of your contract you were given half a flock. Since there were four brothers they collectively would have had two complete flocks. Is your James CRINIGAN and  Catherine CRINIGAN WALSH related?  Was Eugene CRINIGAN son of your James CRINIGAN named after the Eugene CRINIGAN who went to Argentina? I do not know. I have not yet found Catherine's death record or her baptismal record.  Best wishes. MJ CAM

      

     

     

     

    MJ Cam

    Sunday 10th Sep 2017, 11:43PM
  • Hello!!!! 

    I share the available information on an argentine page in case it may help you.

    http://www.genealogiairlandesa.com/genealogia/C/Crinigan/John.php

    Regards,

    Silvia

    Silvia Fleming

    Monday 11th Sep 2017, 07:49PM
  • Dear Silvia Fleming

    Thank you very much for the link.

    I am so delighted to see so much information on the CRINIGAN family in Argentina. Thank you for sharing. Are you related to the CRINIGAN family?

     My Great grandmother Catherine CRINIGAN married James WALSH in Feb 1857 in  Westmeath. My Grandmother Elizabeth WALSH the first born child of Catherine CRINIGAN WALSH and James WALSH was born 8 Dec 1857, She was baptized 12 December 1857. She and her sister came to New York City about 1881. Elizabeth WALSH  married Michael LYNCH  in New York City,  He was also from Westmeath . Her sister Maria( Mary) WALSH married John ALLARD in Brooklyn New York in 1894. John ALLARD was born in Westmeath, too.

    MJ Cam

    Wednesday 13th Sep 2017, 01:49AM
  • Hello Mj Cam!!!!!

    It seems your great great grandfather James Crinigan (1825 Balrow-Ballinacarrigy) might have been a brother of Francis Crinigan, who came to Argentina.

    I'm not a Crinigan relative.  But I very well know some of Francis Crinigan's descendants.

    My e-mail  silviafleming@hotmail.com, if you want to write to me.

    Rgds,

    Silvia

     

     

     

    Silvia Fleming

    Wednesday 13th Sep 2017, 01:55PM
  • My great grandfather, Michael Murray, was born in 1867 in Balrow to Michael Murray and Anne Ward.  His sponsors were James and Mary Crinigan.  Since sponsors are often family relations, I thought there might be a chance you have come across a Murray or a Ward married to a Crinigan in your research.  (I noticed that a younger James Crinigan born in Balrow was a tailor and Michael Sr. and his other son John were tailors in the area as well.)

    Also, you indicated that James and Ellen were married in Balrow in 1856. How did you determine the town? Did your family pass down that information? The parish register entry for my ancestors doesn't specify the town and it was before civil registrations (1852).

    The names of the witnesses to their marriage are hard to read. The man's name is transcribed as William Leonard, but it definitely looks like the last name starts with a C, not an L, and could be Crinigan. The woman's name is transcribed as Ellen Krenahan.?

    Colleen Murray

     

     

     

     

     

    canne

    Sunday 22nd Dec 2019, 11:35PM

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