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I am trying to find anything about the birthplace of my Great grandfather JOHN RILEY born 1837-9. His father was THOMAS RILEY (BLACKSMITH).

He lived in Chorley Lancashire England and married MARGARET HEFFERAN (much doubt about the spelling) on 19th October 1861 at St Marys Chapel in Chorley. They had at least seven children :-

Ann - Anara - Thomas - Francis - Margaret - Ellen  & Mary.

My last knowledge of the family is in the English 1891 census whilst they were living at 47 Parker St.

Family lore has it that John came from Mayo and Margaret from Sligo.

Any news will be gratefully received.

Tony frearson

Thursday 21st Feb 2013, 06:47PM

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  • There are at least 34 John Riley son of Thomas born/bapt 1837/+-2years


    None in Mayo ? that may be there were none or more likely that rootsireland do not have transcripts that cover the person you want.


    When using Rootsireland here is the technique I use: -


    In this example I was looking for a Minnie and Catherine Wiley sisters parents unknown.


    How I did it was to use the pay to view site


    http://rootsireland.ie/


    I did firstly a national search for Minnie which threw up a couple both in Antrim. I then switched to County Antrim.


    By playing about with the date range I was able to narrow down the baptism to a specific year. I still have not used the pay to view option yet nor used up any of my limited number of free previews. Once I had a Minnie I had to find her parents first names. I started with father first name a - this would bring up any firstnames starting with "a". Working through the alphabet got me to H when I got a hit adding further letters and worked out father was Hugh. Search then for Wiley children no firstname father Hugh within ten years of Minnie. Got 6 hits and using same technique was able to work out the 6 names - but no Catherine. Minnie is a common nickname so reverted to Catherine. Broad search found two which narrowed down to one in 1868 and one in 1872. Was able to work out 1868 was daughter of John and Mary. Broad search found no other children to this couple. 1872 Catherine was daughter of John and Jane and a broad search threw up 9 children. Plodding through the alphabet got me Alexander, Eliza, Catherine, Eleanor, Francis, John, James, Samuel, Wilhemina, which was more complicated since it is usually spelled WilheLmina.  Catherine I knew was 1872, and bit of playing about with date range got me 1881 for Wilhemina. Age gap fits the two sisters although the ages are well out - no surprises there!


    You can play about with the dates until you match up the other 7 children. You can refine it a bit more by choosing one child then working your way through the drop down menu of the various parishes until you get a hit. Then you can see if all the other children were also in the same parish. Bearing in mind couples did move about as well as changing churches. It is quite possible that these 9 children were born to more than one couple named John and Jane.  Getting one transcript should give mothers maiden name and doing a broad search for baptisms to John and Jane with new surname hopefully should confirm 9 children. However many older records do not list mother's maiden name. Using this technique you can gain a lot of data without using up your limited number of free searches or having to buy any transcripts.


     


    Bob Graham (County Fermanagh XO)


     

    Thursday 21st Feb 2013, 07:53PM
  • Thanks Bob. Another road to go down

    Thursday 21st Feb 2013, 10:15PM
  • Frances Kelly-Madden BA Dip Family History.

    In the Irish Census of 1901 there is a Thomas Reilly aged 80 ( ages given in Census not to relied on) in Kilmaine Co Mayo, Religion R.C. Birthplace Co Galway. His occupation is given as Blacksmith. He is a widower. His Son Michael aged 40yrs lives with him and his occupation is also a Blacksmith. His Daughter in law called Kate aged 40 and Grandson Patrick aged 16 also live with him. This may not be your family, but there may be a connection.

    Frances Kelly-Madden

     

     

    cummer@irelandxo.com

    Thursday 21st Feb 2013, 11:27PM

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