Hi,
I have information that Jane, my paternal grandmother, was born in the parish of Termonfeckin on November 12, 1888. I have been able to find the baptism records of her three siblings as well as the marriage certificate for her parents, Andrew Coogan and Mary Toner. The first documentation I can find for Jane is on a passenger list showing her arrival in NYC in 1905.
I would appreciate any assistance in obtaining documentary evidence to confirm her birth.
Thx
James mcdonald
Saturday 21st Mar 2015, 05:19PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi James
www.rootsireland.ie/ (subscription site) has 4 children born to Andrew Coogan & Mary Toner 1888 + - 10 years:
Michael 1883 Patrick 1884 Mary B 1886 & Andrew 1893
No sign of Jane I'm afraid
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Col,
Thanks for checking. Roots... is where I did find Jane's siblings and parents; granparents, uncles, aunts and on. But, as you've said, no Jane.
That is the reason that I posted through Ireland Reaching Out.
Jim
James mcdonald
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Jim,
If posters would mention the sites they have searched it would save us volunteers a lot of work!
You said you only found 3 siblingss but I found 4.
I wonder if the Mary B could be Jane as ancestry has an arrival for Jane MARIA Coogan 1905 who is from Drogheda (Louth)Name: Jane Maria Coogan
Arrival Date: 27 Sep 1905
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Caronia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Caronia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
ColColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Col,
Thanks. I was careless in saying three sibling. Jane had four. I apologize.
Jane did arrive in NYC in 1905 and married my grandfather, Patrick Joseph McDonald in 1908. Her brother, Michael, was killed at the beginning of WW1 in 1914. A distributon of a grant to soldiers that died mention all of the siblings and identifies Jane as Jane McDonald, her married name. So I know she is a member of that family.
Why she does not appear in any Irish records, I know not.
I will reach out to the chuch of the Immaculate Conception in Termonfeckin and hope that there is a sacrament record for Jane.
Than you for you interest and assistance.
Jim
James mcdonald
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Hi Jim
Here's a bit more evidence that Jane could be Mary:
This is the 1901 Irish Census (free online) showing the family such as it was; there is no Jane anywhere just this Mary.
The Jane Maria who arrived in 1905 was born 1887/8 - same year as Mary.
The 1911 cesnsu doesn't have a Mary Coogan of the right age & rootsireland doesn't have a marriage for Mary Coogan with a birth year around 1888.
So this young Irish lass hopped on a boat & decided to call herself Jane because she preferred it to Mary?
Unless of course the Immaculate Conception comes up with some contrary evidence.
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Mary was baptised 1/13/1886. There is later evidence that she married Peter Dorn and remained in Ireland. Jane was born in 1888.
James mcdonald