I'm seeking details of my great-grandparents;
Stuart Taylor, Protestant, apparently born Louth 1807, joined Irish Constabulary 1932, based mainly at Tyrrells Pass;
married Elizabeth Turkington est 1839 / 40, and their first (of 12) child John I Taylor was baptised at Mayne Parish on 26 Nov 1840 - was Elizabeth working at / connected to Tullynally? Mayne seems a long way from Tyrells Pass, and none of the other children was baptised there.
A later child, my grandfather, John Hamilton Taylor, b 1853, gives his place of birth as Castletown on the 1911 English census.
Stuart was pensioned off after 30 years service in 1862, and then became bailiff and later estate manager at Packenham Hall / Tullynally. He rented a house and 6 acres from the Earl of Longford at Coolure, Clonteens
He died at Packenham hall, and was buried 18 May 1892. Elizabeth dies in 1898.
My grandfather John H Taylor came to England about 1870, and married Bridie Weir, a Catholic (from near Mullingar) in the early 1900s. Several of the other surviving children came to England, and one at least on to Australia, from 1870 - 1900
I am seeking any more information about this family, particularly their origins - I cannot find any definite trace in Louth, although there my be a connection to Dundalk or Drogheda. I have traced some Turkingtons to Athlone, but can't find any connection!
I know there's another Taylor family based around Slieve Bloom, but I don't know if htey are related or not. I'd be very grateful for any help or even hints of where I can look for more information.
Friday 4th Jan 2013, 02:23PM
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Hi,
Thank you for your message.
Have you tried looking for Stuart in Royal Irish Constabulory records? Excellent personnel records were kept from 1816. These can be found at the UK National Archives here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-irish-constabulary.htm.
There are microfilm copies at the National Archives of Ireland, The Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) and the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI). For each recruit it includes a brief service record, date of marriage and wife's native county, and the name of the individual who recommended him. This is important to identify an exact place of origin, because the recommendations usually came from local clergymen or magistrates who knew the recruit personally.
There is a book by Jim Herlihy called, "The Royal Irish Constabulary: a complete alphabetical list of officers and men, 1816-1922, 1999". This supplies the Service Number needed to use the Registers quickly and easily.
Also worth checking at the UK National Archives is PMG 48: 'Pensions and allowances to officers, men and staff of the Royal Irish Constabulary and to their widows and children'. This dates from the 1870s and usually gives the address of the recipient. The Dublin Metropolitan Police Register is held by the Garda Archives at Dublin Castle, but is more readily available on microfilm at the National Archives of Ireland. It does not give marriage details but does supply a parish of origin.
You can find information regarding the Garda here: http://www.policehistory.com/museum.html
Have you tried looking in the Tithe Applotment Books? These are land records that were compiled between 1823 and 1837 in order to determine the amount which occupiers of agricultural holdings should pay in tithes to the Church of Ireland . Although they do not give any genealogical inforamtion they can be used to tie an individual to a specific place. You could do a search for Stuart, and perhaps his father if you know the name, here:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
Some other websites which you may find useful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/
The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm
Family Search: https://familysearch.org/
Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/louth/index.html
http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/westmeath/index.html
I hope that this helpful, best of luck with the rest of your research.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support
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Hi
I think I may be able to help you or at least give you some interesting information. I am researching the Fetherston and Holmes families, and related families, who were tenants on the Pakenham Hall estate at Carne. I believe some also worked on the estate.
I have references and old photos of people called Taylor, including Stuart Taylor, and indeed a Fetherston who married a Turkington in Mayne church.
Please contact me privately by email.
Marie Davison
Marie Davison
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Hi Marie,
I have just discovered your message of 26 Mar 2013. I too am researching a few families who worked on the Packinham estate namely the Connor family and the Duff(e) family. I do know the Connor family were employed on the Tullynally estate and the Duff(e)s in Coolure House.
I would love to correspond with you on these matters and the various families who worked on Packinham Hall and Coolure House estates. To let you know, I have been in Packinham Hall researching the Connor side of my family but their farm records only go back to about 1855, about the time of Griffiths Valuation.
I see you asked the other messenger to contact you privately but I do not see how that can be done. I would gladly give you my email address if necessary.
Gerry O Connor :-)
Benchurian
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Hi Gerry
I'd be more than happy to discuss Pakenham Hall with you & share information. I've often thought it would be great to have a study group for those researching ex-tenants & employees. My email mda60787@bigpond.net.au . I'm in Australia & visited Tullynally (I think I'll always call it Pakenham Hall) last September.
Marie
Marie Davison