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looking for info on my family from Ireland   This is what I have   John Kiernan married to Elizabeth Monaghan  Son ,Thomas . I believe 1788 from Longford   Married to a Bridget!!!

Children  Anne  , Mary, John  Thomas   All born in Castleton,Castlepollard,Westmeath. Originally thought birthdates were 1820,1826,1830,1832     

However using your website found     

Anne b of Thomas Kiernan and Bridget Morris ,June 24,1818

Thomas b of Thomas Kiernan and Bridget Morris ,June 10, 1829

Family migrated to Australia in 1840 aboard the Mary Dugdale

Do I have the correct Thomas and Bridget??

 

 

 

 

 

Witts

Saturday 19th Nov 2016, 03:14PM

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  • Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    The parish registers for Longford and Westmeath are available on rootsireland.ie. A search for a marriage between a Kiernan and Monaghan was not successful leading me to believe that they were married in the bride's parish where records no longer exists or did exist at one time but not any longer. These are the baptisms for children from that marriage:

    • Thomas baptised  20th August 1788 in the parish of Granard
    • Ann baptised 19th April 1795 (query as to this one as even though it is the same parish as above, the mother's first name is not recorded)
    • John baptised 6th April 1800 as in Granard

    There doesn't seem to be a surviving marriage record for Thomas and Bridget/Brigid Morris nor any baptisms for their children in Longford or Westmeath. Can I ask where on our site you saw the info, perhaps an XO Chronicles entry?

    The Tithe Applotment for Granard date from 1833 and record a Thomas Kiernan in Granard, townland of Killeen and this may be your Thomas. You can see the digitised copy HERE. Even though much of the 1841 & 1851 Census is no longer available there are still some fragments for Longford but there is no Thomas Kiernan listed in either of these.

    Perhaps you can get back to me about the above

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support 

     

    Tuesday 22nd Nov 2016, 12:22PM
  • Hi Clare. Thankyou for your help. 

    The Anne and John that you mentioned- are they siblings of Thomas born 1788

    On the "Register of Emigrant Labourers Applying for a Free Passage to South Australia" dated April 2 1840, it lists 

    Thomas Kiernan 25,20 (wife) Mary 17,Ann 19, Thomas 14,12 (John)  from Castleton,Castlepollard.

    I would say the ages listed aren't correct

    On the website registers.nli.ie  looked under Castlepollard 

    I found Ann - parents Thomas Kiernan ,Bridget Morris.Sponsors Thomas Chapman,Bridget Chapman  June 24 1818

    Thomas- parents Thomas Kiernan,Bridget Morris.Sponsors Thomas Hamlan (unclear) ,Ann Donnelly June 10,1829

    (Page 33 may 1829 to June 1829, Castlepollard/Microfilm 04164/04)

    Are these the children of Thomas born 1788? 

    Once again thankyou for your help . Linda

     

    Witts

    Wednesday 23rd Nov 2016, 01:27PM
  • Yes! Sorry for the confusion, the Ann and John mentioned above are children of John Kiernan and Elizabeth Monaghan and siblings of Thomas (who later went on to marry Bridget).

    You are also correct that those NLI  baptisms are for Ann and Thomas who were children of Thomas and Bridget Morris - I have found them on Ancestry now - but there doesn't seem to be any other children listed in the list of 200+ baptisms there aside from those two mentioned

    Many thanks

    Clare

    Genealogy Support 

     

    Thursday 24th Nov 2016, 04:04PM
  • Thank you Clare 

    So to clarify the Thomas and Ann that I found are the children of Thomas Kiernan born 1788  

    Mary and John must be somewhere :)    Thomas ,born 1829, is my great great great grandfather.  It was nice to find him.  I would love to find out more about my Irish family  

    Once again thankyou so much for your help 

    Linda

    Witts

    Friday 25th Nov 2016, 03:00PM
  • Hi again

    Yes those are the children of Thomas and his wife Bridget. 

    Best wishes

    Clare

    Genealogy Support 

    Monday 28th Nov 2016, 10:35AM
  • Hi Clare 

    I understand that they are the children of Thomas and Bridget   I wanted to just double check to see if the Thomas Kiernan married to Bridget is the same Thomas Kiernan born 1788 baptized in Granard .

    Once again 

    Thankyou for your patience 

    Linda

    Witts

    Monday 28th Nov 2016, 10:06PM

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