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Hi    I am researching the family of Daniel McAuley, born in Larne area, around 1805-7, son, it is believed to be the son of George McAuley and Mary McDonald.  Daniel married Ellen Irvin around 1828, and a son George  was born late 1828, or early 1829.   At some stage  they sailed to New Brunswick, Canada, where they settled and had more children in Rexton and then Bouctouche, NB, Canada.    Daniel and family then sailed out to New Zealand in the McAuley built brig "Our Hope" in December  1862.  Any information about the early life in Larne of Daniel and Ellen, and details of departure to NB would be much appreciated.  Regards, Stephen Schollum, Cambridge, New Zealand.

 

Stephen Schollum

Thursday 11th Jan 2018, 04:59AM

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  • Stephen,

    The events are before the start of statutory birth, marriage and death registration in Ireland. To trace the family you would need to rely on church records. You haven’t said what denomination they were but I would guess Presbyterian both by the name and the fact that the majority of the population of Larne were of that denomination. The main Presbyterian church there was the non Subscribing church. It has baptisms for 1720-69, 1798, 1801 – 1803 & 1826 – 1829. Marriages cover 1721 – 1769 & 1826 – 1908.

    There is a second Presbyterian church in the town but it only has marriages from 1846 and baptisms from 1861. The RC church’s records start in 1821 and the Church of Ireland in 1806.

    The RC records are on-line on the nli site, for the others you would need to get someone to go to PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast and look them up.

    Regarding passengers details from Ireland to NB, I would suggest you search on Ancestry or findmypast (subscription sites) as they have most of the records. However if the family left Ireland/Britain for Canada before around 1850, then there are few passengers lists, as they weren’t required then.

    Though most Irish censuses pre 1901 have been destroyed, part of the 1851 census does still exist and it includes Larne and some of the surrounding area. I don’t see this family in it, and so suspect either they had left by 1851 or lived outside the area covered by the census fragments.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 11th Jan 2018, 08:49AM
  • Hi Elwyn           Many thanks for your supportive and informative reply.       My Daniel McAuley and his wife Ellen Irvin were Roman Catholic.    I understand that there were not many RC churches in Antrim at that time.    My research suggests that they were married in the churches associated with the localities of   Ballygowan, Carrickfergus and Larne, Larne, St. Mac Nissi, Larne.     My research seems to suggest that there was no RC church in either Larne or Carrickfergus in 1828-28 or, that the then existing churches have been replaced by the current churches.    It appears that the church at Ballygowan has long fallen into disrepair.  While I have now located the Nat Lib Ireland register records http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632274#page/1/mode/1up showing a marriage on 13 May 1828,   the brief record doesn't specify the actual church, nor anything about the respective parents, etc.    To date I have not found any shipping information for them sailing to Canada, but estimate that they sailed sometime betweern early 1829 and March 1833 where daughter was born in New Brunswick, Canada.    I would love to find the port of arrival.  Thank you for information regarding the lack of McAuley family names in the 1851 Census, but I agree, they parents may hve lived somewhere outside Larne.  All I can think is that Daniel and Ellen married in the bride's church in her home town.  Who knows?  Again,  thanks for your interest    If anyone else recognises these nmes, I would love to hear from you    Regards  Stephen  

     

    Stephen Schollum

    Friday 12th Jan 2018, 09:32AM
  • Stephen,

    That marriage entry for 1828 is fairly typical for the time. All you get is the couples names, the date and their 2 witnesses. No parents, townlands or occupations.  That’s fairly normal.  Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, so if the husband came from a different parish then the baptism of their children could be in a different church and parish. In this case I see George’s baptism on 26.1.1829 in the same parish.

    Larne & Carrickfergus is one big RC parish. Probably 50 square miles.  It covers the civil parishes of Larne, Kilroot, Inver, Glynn, Templecorran, Islandmagee & Carrickfergus. The Ordnance Survey memoirs (mid 1830s) for those civil parishes should tell you what RC churches were there then. 

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 12th Jan 2018, 06:38PM

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