I have started my tree research this year and made a lot of progress in a short time. My Grandfather was John Treanor, born 1870 in Fivemiletown or Sixmilecross. His parents were John Treanor born about 1813, died 1898 and Mary Corrigan (no details). He had a number of siblings born between 1864 and 1881 in and around the area. John Treanor Snr was a Smith so would have done a lot of travelling. I have found some basic records for the family, mainly births, a little more for one sibling Joseph and quite a bit more about my Grandfather (only because he came to live in my hometown of Fleetwood in Lancashire) I have spent months looking for descendants of the family and found nothing. I cannot find anything about his mother Mary, nor birth records for John T Snr. I have searched deaths, marriages, military, emigration etc to no avail. I have done a DNA test with Ancestry and have quite a lot of Treanor matches. So my question is, am I wasting my time because the records don't exist, or do I need to employ a different method? Incidentally my Donnelly ancestors came from the Tempo area of County Fermanagh and I have exactly the same challenge in finding them. Thanks for reading and I would be grateful for any replies Martin
MartinJD
Wednesday 5th Jun 2019, 01:56PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Miriam, yes these are the records I have. Think it is going to be hard to find records of JT Snr's birth as I dont know where he was born, nor do I have any details of his siblings or parents. Think the only way it may be solved is via another person with a DNA match, who has ancestors up the line of other Treanors. I have written to quite a few but only received two replies which is disappointing. Another key maybe locating the marriage of JT Snr and Mary Corrigan, where I might be able to identify other family members.
Regards
Martin
MartinJD
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Hi Miriam
Thank you, I hadn't thought of looking in Scotland, the date is around the right time too. I will have a look. Is Scotlands People the Organisation where you obtain official records and certificates? I have obtained other certificates through my Local Authority at home and PRONI
Martin
MartinJD
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Hi Miriam, I have registered and found the record you located. Purchased the image to find it was a brief entry in a register, hardly any detail except their names, date and noting the presence of a Susan Corrigan. However if it is my JT Snr then it is another piece of the puzzle, I will probably need to purchase a full copy certificate to be sure.
Thank you, Martin :-)
MartinJD
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Thanks Miriam, think I need to contact them to verify what records are available other than the sort entry in the register
Martin
MartinJD
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If you want to view the full 1864 marriage certificate it’s cost you around £2 (sterling) on Scotlandspeople:
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records
Scottish marriage certificates are much better than Irish and English ones as they contain both parents names and occupations, plus they record whether those parents were alive or dead at that date.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you Elwyn
MartinJD
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Hi Miriam
Not sure about the marriage of John Treanor and Mary Corrigan. I did contact Scottish People and they said the only record was the one I saw, with very little detail. In the meantime I have revisited the search on genealogy websites, doing some 'wildcard' searches and changed the spelling; I found a Corrigan Family tree with John and Mary on it, same marriage details. So it throws doubt upon whether it is the John and Mary I am looking for. Of course the owners of the other tree may have got it wrong and there isnt any supporting evidence to view.
Kind regards
Martin
MartinJD
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If you have done DNA testing, there is a new Facebook DNA Matchmaker group for County Armagh and Tyrone. If you upload a GEDMatch to the matchmaker tool, you may find relatives with ancestry specifically from this area.
Margaret Perkins
GranNan3
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Martin
Hi Miriam, spent some time looking at the Dundee Marriage on the other family tree. I think their records and evidence is genuine, so am going to remove the marriage and keep searching,
Regards
MartinJD
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Hi Margaret,
I have joined Irish DNA Registry and County Tyrone Genealogy facebook pages and posted my gedmatch results there.
Lots of replies from the Registry pages but nothing promising yet
Thanks
Martin
MartinJD
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Hi Miriam, another update: Managed to trace a descendant from my Treanor generation. I was advised to try some 'shared DNA matches' to narrow down some of my matches. Lo and behold I came across a distant match I had previously discounted, however looking back through her tree I saw some familiar names. This lady is the G/Grandaughter of my G/Uncle Patrick Treanor - brother of my Grandfather.
Kind regards, Martin
MartinJD
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Good Morning,
Just to make people aware there is a Treanor/ Traynor/ Trenor/ Trainor and other variants Facebook group . Members share stories and have linked up with relatives in the group.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/443451089172141/?ref=group_header&view=group
regards
Noel Treanor
Strongman1