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I am looking for Catherine Dempsey and John Gilmartin, also spelled Kilmartin.  They lived in Roscommon and I found 1 Catholic Parish Record for Joannes Kilmartin, father, Catharina Dempsey, mother, Jacobum Kilmartin child Diocese of Elphin, parish of Kilteevan and Roscommon. 

 

On my 2x great grand mother's death record from 1917 in Massachusetts, her parents are listed as John Gilmartin and Catherine Dempsey. My 2x great grandmother was called Maria Gilmartin Neville. She was born around 1839. She married Timothy Neville.    I thought I had found her correct birth information and then I recently found the death record, with John and Catherine listed as her parents and I am having no luck finding her.  Any help would be most appreciated. 

 

Stephanie White

Stephanie

Tuesday 23rd Jun 2020, 05:05PM

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  • Stephanie:

    Welcome to ireland Reaching Out!

    The subscription site Roots Ireland actually has baptismal records for five children born to John Gilmartin and Catherine Dempsey. Besides James there were records for Michael John Ann and Brigid. See transcriptions below. I did not locate a marriage record. Possibly Catherine's record was missed in transcription. I will look at the register.

    By the way, I looked at the 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Kilteevan civil parish and there were four Kilmartin records including a John in Aghmagree townland. Possibly this is your ancestor. https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/roscommon/kilteevan.htm

    Roger McDonnell

    Name:Michael KilmartinDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:07-Feb-1836Address:Not RecordedParish/District:ROSCOMMONGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John KilmartinMother:Catherine DempseyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Peter KilmartainSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Kilmartin

    Name:John KilmartinDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:28-Jun-1841Address:Not RecordedParish/District:ROSCOMMONGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John KilmartinMother:Catherine DempseyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Terance KilmartinSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Catherine Noon

    Name:Ann KilmartinDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:25-Feb-1844Address:Not RecordedParish/District:ROSCOMMONGender:FemaleCountyCo. Roscommon
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John KilmartinMother:Catherine DempsyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Michael KilmartinSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Catherine Hunt

    Name:Brigid KilmartinDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:14-Nov-1848Address:KilteevanParish/District:ROSCOMMONGender:FemaleCountyCo. Roscommon
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John KilmartinMother:Catherine DempsyOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Patrick RocheSponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Ann Kilmartin

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 23rd Jun 2020, 06:28PM
  • Stephanie:

    I went thru the parish register and did not see an entry for Catherine. It was a very legible register https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0564  with records starting in October 1837. (Roots Ireland indicates they have baptismal records starting in 1820.)  

    There are a number of possibilities. First, the priest failed to add Catherine's record to the register. Second, Catherine was actually the oldest child and born in 1834 or earlier and in a nearby parish where records no longer go back to 1834. The marriage also likely occurred in this parish (bride's parish) since Roscommon RC marriage records start in 1820.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 23rd Jun 2020, 08:20PM
  • Hello Roger!            I am wondering about the record of Maria Gilmartin, who is also a daughter of Catherine Dempsey and John Kilmartin.  She is my direct ancestor born around 1838.  I had a record for her, but the parent's names were different.  Then I found her death certificate which specifically listed Catherine Dempsey and John Gimartin as her parents.  I am looking for confirmation of this.  I wonder also if my John Kilmartin had strong ties to Roscommon?  How could I find this out?

     

     

     

     

     

    Stephanie

    Wednesday 1st Jul 2020, 01:03PM
  • Stephanie:

    In looking at my responses, I was confusing Maria with her mother Catherine. I could not find Maria's baptismal record on the register. Sorry!

    Here is the link to the parish register  https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0564

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 2nd Jul 2020, 01:22PM

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