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John Ryan was born at Monassa, Ballytobin, near Calan in Co Kilkenny, around June 1841. His parents Denis Ryan and Catherine (nee) Farrell were farmers I found that the marriage of John's parents at the Dunamaggin parish church near Ballytobin occurred 13th February, 1831, and the christenings of several of his siblings, Michael, 9th November 1833, Ellen, 25th February 1836,  Mary, 3rd October 1838,  Thomas, 15th June 1847 and Kitty, 1st September 1850 were recorded, but the church records are missing for the period around John's birth which was approximately June 1841.

John arrived in Brisbane with his sister, Mary on November 2, 1862 aboard the Prince Consort. My proof of this is the period of time living in Queensland given on their death certificates and their names listed on the ship's passenger list as well as on the list of assisted immigrants to Queensland. Two more of John's sisters subsequently came to Australia, Ellen before 1878, and the widowed Annastasia Devereaux and her children in 1885.

John was certainly in Mackay by 1866, as he is noted in the Mercury in that year as donating £5  to the Catholic Church building fund.  He first came to the notice of Queensland officialdom by marrying Mary-Anne Martin on Jan 17th, 1867 in the Catholic Church, Mackay, Queensland.  Father Thomas Lonergan officiated, and Michael Hickey and Elizabeth McCall witnessed the marriage.  Both John & Mary-Anne were literate, which presupposes an education.  Mary-Anne came from Loughrea in Galway, where her father, James Martin, had an ironmongery in Church Lane.  Her mother died in the Ryan home in Mackay at the early age of 48, and on her mother's death certificate it states that she still had other living children, presumably in Australia, and probably in Mackay. Nor have I yet succeeded in finding any of these Martins on any of the ships' passenger lists at the archives.  John's occupation at the time of their marriage is listed as settler, and Mary-Anne's as domestic servant.

By the time the electoral roll of 1869/70 was completed John had become a freeholder, and on his children's birth certificates he is listed as contractor or carpenter. 

In 1873/74 John was the licencee of the Bushman's Hotel on the bank of the Pioneer River.  The inevitable next flood sent the hotel down the river.

By 1901 John was living in MacAlister Street according to the Post Office Directory of that year.

Mary-Anne and John wasted no time in starting their family and between November 1867 and May 1883 produced nine children.  Sadly, only five were to reach maturity, and only two of these lived past middle age.  Mary-Anne herself died in 1884, according to her death certificate, from phthisis (tuberculosis to us today).  However her certificate also stated that she had been ill only for three weeks.  TB does not usually kill people so fast, but kidney failure can, and many members of the Ryan family of two generations are known to have died from an hereditary form of kidney failure.  My guess, un-provable, is that Mary-Anne died from it too, and some of her children and grandchildren inherited it from her.  

The children who reached adulthood were Mary Catherine, Edwin James (my grandfather), Anastasia Veronica, Thomas Denis & Annie Cecilia Frances.  Mary Catherine did not marry, and died at 54 from kidney failure.  Anastasia Veronica married Robert Anderson, had four children and died at the age of 38 from the same cause (all four of her children also died, as far as I know, from kidney failure, only one leaving any offspring.  They are both fortunately free of the disease).  Thomas Denis was a saddler. He traded in Walkerston, near Mackay, around 1890-1899 and later in Mackay as Ryan & Rosier Sadlery in Sydney Street (Post Office directory, 1911).  My great-uncle Tom lived till he was about eighty-five, spending his last few years retired in Brisbane.  He never married and I remember him as a tall, very softly-spoken old gentleman, always impeccably dressed in a three-piece suit, but possessed of an amiable twinkle in his still bright blue eyes.

Annie Cecilia Frances was reputed to have been beautiful in her youth (I met her only once, and my memory is of a "little old white-haired lady"), and was engaged to a wealthy man from Sydney when her sister Anastasia died.  She cancelled her wedding plans and took charge of the four children, devoting her life to them and to her father in his old age (sounds too saintly for words, doesn't it, but I've been told it is true - she was really a lovely person).  She is still remembered with great affection by Anastasia's grandchildren.  Annie died in Mackay in 1962.

Edwin James was an engine driver at Mount Morgan when he met my grandmother, Nellie Manuel.  Nellie was visiting her mother's family in Rockhampton, the McEvoys (from co Offaly) having settled there.  They married in December 1901, at St Joseph's Cathedral, but returned to Mackay almost immediately, living with Edwin's father John in MacAlister Street for the first few years.   My mother, Edna Kathleen, was born there in September 1902.  Her sister, Thelma Mary, followed a few years later.  I don't know how long Edwin (always called Teddy) remained with the railways, but by 1905 they had moved to Albert Street, and by 1913 Teddy was the licensee of "The School of Arts Hotel" (Qld Gov. Gazette).  They were making a success of the business, judging by their lifestyle (the girls were at All Hallows boarding school in Brisbane, and lacked nothing), and by 1916 he and Nellie were running Ryan's Australian Hotel.  However, by March 1917 Teddy had died at the age of 45.  His death certificate states he died from "gastritis and exhaustion".

Nellie continued to run the hotel for a few years, but was no businesswoman, (too lenient with debtors, by all accounts).  The hotel was badly damaged by the 1918 cyclone and eventually she lost it to the bank, leaving Mackay for the south soon afterwards.

John himself lived till 1926 in the home he built in Shakespeare Street in Mackay.

Berenice Wright, an expert on early Mackay history, says that John was the chainman for Thomas Henry Fitzgerald, the surveyer of Mackay.  He commenced in early 1863 completing the work by the end of May of that year.  She also says that John planted the first half-acre of cane for T H Fitzgerald in 1866.  The cane was used for plant cane to start Alexandra Plantation and mill and distillery.  The mill had it's first crushing in 1868.  

John Ryan's Obit, Daily Mercury 23 March 1926.

An old and highly respected resident of Mackay, Mr John Ryan, passed away last Monday week after a short illness.  The deceased was one of the foremost pioneers in the district, having arrived in Mackay in 1863.  Shortly after that time he planted the first sugar-cane in the district on an allotment which is now occupied by Messers Wilson and Hart's timber yards.  He also acted as chainman with Mr T Fitzgerald in the first survey of town allotments in Mackay, and was closely associated with other phases of early development of the city.  For many years he was engaged with the Pioneer Shire Council, but latterly had not taken any active part in business.  The funeral took place at the Mackay Cemetery on Tuesday, Rev. Father Byrne officiating at the graveside.  The deceased's wife pre-deceased him some years ago and a grown-up daughter and son are left to mourn their loss. 

In recent years I have been delighted to locate my cousins in Monassa.  They are descended from John's brother, Thomas and to our joy have visited us in Australia. We now stay in touch.

 

 

 

 

Additional Information
Date of Birth 1st Jun 1841
Date of Death 1st Mar 1926
Father (First Name/s and Surname) Denis Ryan (c. 1805-1881) Farmer, Monassa, Kilkenny
Mother (First Name/s and Maiden) Catherine (Kitty) Farrell (c.1805-1885)
Names of Siblings Michael Bap 9 Nov 1833 Ellen " 25 Feb 1836-7 Sep 1913 Australia Mary " 3 Oct 1838-11 Feb 1906 " Anastasia 1844- 7 Jul 1921, Australia Thomas Bap 15 Jun 1847- 5 Apr 1933 IRE Kitty " 1 Sep 1850 Will

Comments

  • Ryans are not too common in Kilkenny. I wonder if your John Ryan might have been related to my great great grandparents, Michael Ryan and Mary Neary from (I believe) Knocktopher, Ballyhale. The emigrated to Massachusetts in 1849 with my young great grandfather David and daughter Alice. Four more children were born here.

    Joe Orfant

    Monday 5th November 2018 03:43PM
  • I would just like to thank you for your delightful short family history of the John Ryan family. Elegantly writtten, your account is engaging and informative both historically and  genealogically. Thank you for the lively detail, your broad and well referenced reseach and the way you convey your felt personal connections. You also provide some valuable snapshots of the broader Queensland settlement history and illustrate the way family history can provide valuable insights into family health profiles. I am not connected to your Ryans (the closest I come is Loughrea - my great grandmother and her family came from nearby Ardrahan,Co. Galway) and nor am I a Queenslander but I enjoy family histories like yours. Thank you.

    David Brown
     

    dhbrown13

    Monday 5th November 2018 08:12PM
  • Thank you, David, for your very flattering comments.  I'm feeling very chuffed.  I've enjoyed my research for over 20 years now and am feeling the urge to get more of it into story, especially as I'm rapidly approaching my eightieth birthday.  I've written a short book about the Ryan family and another about my father's paternal line, the McCoys. But much remains to be written as the research has uncovered some remarkable tales, both good and bad, sometimes about the same person! 

    Cheers, Margaret Taylor.

    margtayl

    Monday 5th November 2018 10:50PM
  • Hello, Joe, As far as I know we are not related, but there are always dangling threads in research, and it is certainly a possibility. :)

    Cheers, Margaret Taylor, Brisbane, Australia

    margtayl

    Monday 5th November 2018 10:54PM
  • Hello Margaret,    I must put forwardsome words too about your family.  I too have irish realtives and am researching them.  Great grandmother Mary  O'Connel came from County Kerry  and eventually lived and died in Mt Morgan. One of her daughters, Mary Anne aka Minnie, my paternal grandmother born Mt Morgan but her later years in Mackay. So yes I'm always excited to hear about both those places.   I've been to Mt Morgan many times and once to Mackay.  Well done 

     

    Cheers, 

    Lorraine Carter, Western Australia

    lorrcart

    Thursday 8th November 2018 03:39AM
  • Joe and Margaret greetings from another family descended from Ryan’s in County Kilkenny. My great grandfather, Laurence Ryan  was born about 1800 and lived most of his long life in Castlecomer. He fathered between 15-20 children through his first wife Margaret Comerford, who died about 1850 and his second wife Mary Lalor who was my great grandmother. Most of the children who survived early childhood emigrated to NYC or Philadelphia but some later married and moved to Los Angeles and Quebec. My grandmother Johanna Ryan was possibly the only child who stayed in Ireland. She married Patrick Brennan a farmer from Cruttenclough which is a few miles from Castlecomer. They moved to a large farm called a Foxmount which is just a few miles south of Waterford City. My father was born at Foxmount and emigrated to NYC in 1926. We have done a lot of research on the Ryan family and have found descendants of many of Laurence’s children. We also found another Ryan family that descended from James Ryan who lived on a farm called Wildfield in the town of Muckalee which is less than 10 miles from Castlecomer. Through our research and DNA matches with descendants of James Ryan we have concluded that Laurence and James were most likely brothers. More recently we have identified a Denis Ryan who we believe was also their brother. It is very likely that the three of them had more siblings. While none of Laurence Ryan’s descendants emigrated to Australia, we know that several of James Ryan,s did. It appears that Margaret’s great, great grandfather Denis Ryan was about the same age as Laurence and James Ryan and could possibly be their brother as all three lived in County Kilkenny not too far from each other. We would be interested in learning any information you may have about Denis Ryan. We believe that Laurence and James families originally came from County Tipperary which is known for having many Ryan’s.

     

     

     

    John

    Saturday 10th November 2018 05:14PM

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