Thomas Cunningham1780

Thomas Cunningham 1780

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I am planning a trip to Ireland in March. I'm looking for information on Cunningham relations in Knockbride parish. My 2xGreat grandfather was born there in about 1802. His father was Thomas a catholic farmer. There are no Cunninghams listed on the 1827 Tithe records (4 acres). There is a Thomas Cunnegan listed though, he is in Tullywaltry. At the time of the Griffith Valuation there is a Philip Cunningham in Tallywaltry who also leases a small house to Catherine Cunningham (total plot just over 2 acres). By 1901 there is just a Philip Cunningham, a widow, living in Tullywaltry with his two children Thomas and Kate. By 1911 none of them are showing. I know Kate had married Bernard Cooney and possibly died by 1911. Philip was 70 in 1901 so again it is possible he had died. I have no idea where Thomas junior went. The only Cunningham I can find in Knockbride in 1911 is Maggie aged 13, born in Scotland. She is living with her uncle Philip Lynch. My 2xGreat Grandfather left Cavan for Scotland sometime before 1847.

I am unable to trace any BMD records showing any Cunninghams in Tallywaltry, I am a member of Roots Ireland. The land Philip farmed in 1856 was owned by Charles P Leslie, I assume this is Charles Powell Leslie of Leslie Castle Glaslogh. I can't find any estate records that show that he owned land in Cavan. I was hoping it might show transfer of land between family members.

CAN ANYONE HELP OR POINT ME TO ANYTHING I MIGHT HAVE MISSED?

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Date of Birth 1st Jan 1780

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    Hi Janice,  

    I will see if I can add anything to your research.  I have access to grave transcriptions from Knockbride graveyards, on perusing them I found a Cunningham family from Beglieve buried in West Knockbride (Tunnyduff).  If I am available, I can take you there when you get here.  James died in 1934, no age given but his daugther  Margaret was 92 when she died in 1990.    This family are in the 1911 National Archives and with them are 4 children, 2 were born in Scotland, Roderick & Barbara.  However when you look at the details on this census, you will see that Mary the wife of James states that she is married 7 years and that she had 2 children and that 2 are living.  This indicates to me that the older children born in Scotland belong to her husband.  Might I suggest that Maggie in the 1911 Census, born in Scotland is the same one buried with her father, however the ages do not match.    Those death records are not online.  I used RootsIreland.ie (subscription site) and found a marriage for James Cunningham to Mary Lynch On 18 May 1904.  His address was 70 Stephen S., Edinburgh and he married Mary Lynch d/o James Lynch.  James' father was Peter.    Was Maggie that was with Philip his niece or his step niece?  If she is his niece, it may be the case that James Cunninghams's first wife died in Scotland and he returned back to Ireland and married his sister in law, it has not been unheard of, however there is no mention of this in the church record.  Now it gets stranger when you look at the civil registration on irishgenealogy.ie, it states that he is a widower, but their addresses are reversed and it does indicate that both their fathers are alive.  With this information I found Peter in 1901 in Beglieve with his daughter, they appear to be the only Cunninghams in Beglieve. In the Tithe Applotments there was a James Cunningham & Francis Patton in Beglieve.  Tulllawaltra and Beglieve are not too far apart see map below.  Peter got married on 24 April 1855, it does not state his fathers name on Roots Ireland.  Could it be possible that Peter & Thomas were brothers?  I seen another marrige for a Mary Cunningham, in 1846, address Cyfin, this is Seefin,(which is also close by) also a Michael in 1853, 

    Have you ever looked at Scotland's peoples site it is a pay per view site.  I have been very lucky in finding some of my family on this site and additional details that are not on other sites and indeed one of my relatives kindly put their townland down on their census return, even though it was crossed out.  Do utilise all the resources on https://genealogy.nationalarchives.ie look for wills, you may be lucky.

    You can also contact Cavan Genealogy Centre they undertake commissions and may be able to help you further.
    Cavan Genealogy
    1st Floor, Johnston Central Library, Farnham St., Cavan 
    Tel: +353 (0) 49 4361094
    Email: cavangenealogy@eircom.net  

    Janice, I have just realised that I cannot add the photos.  

    I hope I have given you a little more direction by widening the scope and possibilities.  

    Best Wishes Carmel O'Callaghan 

     

     

     

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Monday 3rd February 2020 08:44PM
  • Hi Carmel

    Thank you so much for your work and reply, it's very helpful. Firstly it confirms that the only grave stones for Cunningham are James and his daughter Margaret. I found James with his first wife Barbara and four children in Edinburgh in 1901. So yes I'm sure Maggie is the one buried with her father. She appears to have emigrated to the USA, her US social security details say she was born 2 jan 1898 and died 3 Jul 1990. It gives her last residence as 900, (U.S. Consulate) Dublin, Republic of Ireland.

    I have used Scotlands people but my family haven't been that helpful in filling out returns. There is one birth certificate from 1855 that confirms that James was born in Knockbride. I can't find a connection yet between James or Peter Cunningham and my family. They appear to be slightly more wealthy than my family, they certainly farmed more land. I will follow your suggestions and check for wills. I will also contact Cavan Genealogy as you suggest.

    Wish me luck

    Kind regards

    Janice

    Berkohis

    Tuesday 4th February 2020 12:12PM
  • Thank you Janice, I will keep Cunninghams on my radar.  Regards Carmel

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Tuesday 4th February 2020 10:50PM
  • Hi Carmel

    Sorry to bother you again. I'm afraid I have acouple more questions. I have a photograph of a gravestone for the Cunningham family you list above but I'm struggling to attached it. Does it start with James Cunningham Beglieve died 25 June 1934 and then list his wife and all his children?

    Also I think by using the Griffith Valuation I have possibly located a deralict property in Tullywaltry which I believe was lived in by Philip Cunningham mentioned in my first message above. Is there anyway I can find who the land now belongs to and if they would allow us a look inside when we visit Cavan in March. It's on the A165. I have map with exact location and picture of the abandoned property from google street view.

    Kind regards

    Janice

     

     

     

    Berkohis

    Monday 17th February 2020 04:56PM
  • Janice email me at ocallaghan.carmel@gmail.com send me the picture and the image of the map & I will make enquiries.  Regards Carmel

     

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Tuesday 18th February 2020 01:44PM
  • Thank you so much Carmel, I have just sent you some images. This is very kind of you.

    Berkohis

    Tuesday 18th February 2020 02:18PM

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