Ann McHugh

Ann:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I searched on the subscription site Roots Ireland and found three possibilities for Catherine, however, I did not find any Charlotte Ryan baptismal records anywhere in Co. Limerick with a father William. I limited the search for Catherine to the five RC parishes in Limerick city.

Roger McDonnell

Name:Catherine RyanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:11-May-1853Address:
Parish/District:ST. JOHN'SGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:William RyanMother:Bridget MaddenOccupation:
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Informant 1:Michael HanniganSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Putt

Name:Catherine RyanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:25-Apr-1859Address:
Parish/District:ST. MARY'SGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:William RyanMother:Catherine RyanOccupation:

Name:Catherine RyanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:02-Sep-1853Address:
Parish/District:ST. MUNCHIN'SGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:William RyanMother:Hanora O'ReillyOccupation:

Hello Roger and thank you for your help. Catherine Ryan also went by the name Mary Catherine, Catherine M, Kathleen. Charlotte is listed as her sister on Catherine and Lawrence's marriage cert.

Hi Ann,

My name is John Dickinson. My Great Grandfather was Thomas Dickinson brother of Lawrence. Both lived in Limerick  and were sons of William Dickinson Crosby Lancashire England. I am guessing that there was an Alphonsus in your family tree but may be wrong. Please message if you wish. 

Hello John.

I think we may are related, my name is Angela nee Dickinson. daughter of Glennon Lawrence Dickinson. 

Son of Alphonsous Dickinson and Elizabetheth Kennedy. 

I have found you by searching the Dickinson name.

I have only just began my family search last week.

When I came across the family search tree site

Here I have found John Clancy a third cousin related to us by our Great Grandparents.

He has created a family tree very extentive and interesting, this can be vewied.

To get our family hstory I would recommend searching the above site,

I am now in liasons with Fergus as well.

I would be very glad if you wish to keep in contact

Best Wishes Angela

Hi Angela,

Thank you for your reply. Almost missed it. Yes distant relatives for sure. Most of the family seem to originate from Lawrence (sometimes spelt Laurence) and Thomas with connections now to Scotland, Wales, UK and America. I put my DNA through myHeritage with 12,500 matches so far albeit mostly pretty distant. I have had contact with a relative from Limerick and she has done a 40 page document detailing the history of the Dickinsons going back to the mid 1850's. An amazing piece of work it charts both Lawrences and Thomas's families up to present. Everything from marriage certificates, newspaper clippings to pictures of my parents which absolutely amazed me. Ancestry and myHeritage throw up some amazing pieces of information. I know my father went to Somerset House in the 1940's trying to find information without success and now most of it is only a few Google searches away. Always good to know where one originates from.

Regards,

John D

Hi John, would you believe I just found your message from 2020 !  My great, great grandad was Lawrence Dickinson ( born 1859, Great Crosby, Lancashire) to William and Mary Lunt who were parents to your great grandad Thomas Dickinson also. 

Hi Angela, I am your first cousin, daughter of Alfie Dickinson whose parents were Alphonsus Dickinson and Elizabeth Kennedy.

Ann McHugh nee Dickinson.

Hi All,

Its quite interesting. From having almost zero information I am almost overwhelmed now. It would appear that there is a great deal of family left around. Some may know of a Blane Dickinson (Youtube and online) who messaged me awhile back with this "My late father was Robert Gerrard Dickinson… son of Alfred Dickinson". So lots descended from Lawrences side of the family. 

JohnnyD

Hi Angela,

Couldnt find anything in respect of the John Clancy family tree. Not sure if the site posted in your response. Any other ways of finding it ?. 

Johnny

Hi Ann,

Thanks, for your message.

I have recently joined the family search tree website, with abit of luck really.

I messaged Fergus, our third cousin and youself on the site and to your email address provided by Fergus.

Trying to search for any info, on my father Glennon. 

Hoping we can keep in touch

Best wishes 

Angela

Hi John,

Apoligies firstly,

I had not realised I had typed the name John, I meant Fergus Clancy, he lives in Dublin.

Fergus and your self are third cousins to my Father once removed from me.

He has provided the following info,

I share GG grandparents with your father, Glennon Lawerence Dickinson. I attach a tree generated from familysearch.org and, by selecting each person in the online tree you can go back a further generation for John Frawley and Anne Bethel.

At first I was a little confused when I found Mary Anne Wallace in the 1901 census with my great grandmother Ellen Clancy nee Frawley from the family of Limerick sandmen. This was because there are a number of Wallace connections to the Clancys. However, Mary Anne was recorded as Ellen's niece. With a bit of searching I found that Mary Anne was born in Limerick workhouse April 1889, to a Bridget Frawley, a month before she married James Wallace. Hence I discovered the existence of Bridget, born 1867. In 1901, while Mary Anne was living with Ellen, Bridget and her son Martin were living with James in Belfast when he was working as a Quay labourer,  I understand that her marriage to James Wallace was not a good one. Mary Anne married Thomas Dickinson in 1912 and Alphonsus was born in 1913. Thomas's father Lawrence was from Lancashire. He worked as a compositor in Limerick and had married Kathleen Ryan in 1879. Mary Anne and Thomas moved to Glasgow sometime after the last birth in 1929 and she died there aged 106. Alphonsus was an insurance agent and he married Elizabeth Kennedy in Limerick, 1936.

Mary Anne Dickinson nee Wallace followed her 4 daughters to Glasgow 

Thomas Dickinson a former owner of Riddler’s Bar, Sarsfield St. Limerick.

I am originally from Glasgow.

Hoping we can keep in touch

Best wishes 

Angela

Hi Angela,

How is your research going. I thought I should keep in touch as I am getting on a bit. I did put a query in to see if any Dickinsons are still in Limerick but no replies I know Tony Dickinson and his brother have passed and am not sure if there is anyone carrying the family surname left in Limerick with marriages etc. I have 4 children and the same in grandchildren. The 3 boys are Dickinsons. 2 grandchildren are Dickinsons. My daughter Kishmiro has become a Smith lol. 

Regards,

Johnny Dickinson

Hi Angela, If you get this message can you contact me on jdickinson2009@live.co.uk for some further info. 

Regards

John

I think one of the most confusing aspects of the Dickinson family was for me knowing which side of the family you come from. Forenames both male and female are used down the generations. From what I can see there are 2 main lineages Laurence and Thomas. I have been assured that I come from Thomas's side so I can go back 7 generations from the youngest aged 9 presently. A year ago I knew very little and now I think I know just about all I need to know. Amazing.